Decarbonizing Cryptocurrencies through Taxation

Maintaining bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies causes about 0.3 percent of global CO2 emissions. That may not sound like a lot, but it’s more than the emissions of Switzerland, Croatia, and Norway combined. As many cryptocurrencies crash and the FTX bankruptcy moves into the litigation stage, regulators are likely to scrutinize the cryptocurrency world more than ever before. This presents a perfect opportunity to curb their environmental damage.

The good news is that cryptocurrencies don’t have to be carbon intensive. In fact, some have near-zero emissions. To encourage polluting currencies to reduce their carbon footprint, we need to force buyers to pay for their environmental harms through taxes.

The difference in emissions among cryptocurrencies comes down to how they create new coins. Bitcoin and other high emitters use a system called “proof of work“: to generate coins, participants, or “miners,” have to solve math problems that demand extraordinary computing power. This allows currencies to maintain their decentralized ledger—the blockchain—but requires enormous amounts of energy.

Greener alternatives exist. Most notably, the “proof of stake” system enables participants to maintain their blockchain by depositing cryptocurrency holdings in a pool. When the second-largest cryptocurrency, Ethereum, switched from proof of work to proof of stake earlier this year, its energy consumption dropped by more than 99.9% overnight.

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies probably won’t follow suit unless forced to, because proof of work offers massive profits to miners—and they’re the ones with power in the system. Multiple legislative levers could be used to entice them to change.

The most blunt solution is to ban cryptocurrency mining altogether. China did this in 2018, but it only made the problem worse; mining moved to other countries with even less efficient energy generation, and emissions went up. The only way for a mining ban to meaningfully reduce carbon emissions is to enact it across most of the globe. Achieving that level of international consensus is, to say the least, unlikely.

A second solution is to prohibit the buying and selling of proof-of-work currencies. The European Parliament’s Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs considered making such a proposal, but voted against it in March. This is understandable; as with a mining ban, it would be both viewed as paternalistic and difficult to implement politically.

Employing a tax instead of an outright ban would largely skirt these issues. As with taxes on gasoline, tobacco, plastics, and alcohol, a cryptocurrency tax could reduce real-world harm by making consumers pay for it.

Most ways of taxing cryptocurrencies would be inefficient, because they’re easy to circumvent and hard to enforce. To avoid these pitfalls, the tax should be levied as a fixed percentage of each proof-of-work-cryptocurrency purchase. Cryptocurrency exchanges should collect the tax, just as merchants collect sales taxes from customers before passing the sum on to governments. To make it harder to evade, the tax should apply regardless of how the proof-of-work currency is being exchanged—whether for a fiat currency or another cryptocurrency. Most important, any state that implements the tax should target all purchases by citizens in its jurisdiction, even if they buy through exchanges with no legal presence in the country.

This sort of tax would be transparent and easy to enforce. Because most people buy cryptocurrencies from one of only a few large exchanges—such as Binance, Coinbase, and Kraken—auditing them should be cheap enough that it pays for itself. If an exchange fails to comply, it should be banned.

Even a small tax on proof-of-work currencies would reduce their damage to the planet. Imagine that you’re new to cryptocurrency and want to become a first-time investor. You’re presented with a range of currencies to choose from: bitcoin, ether, litecoin, monero, and others. You notice that all of them except ether add an environmental tax to your purchase price. Which one do you buy?

Countries don’t need to coordinate across borders for a proof-of-work tax on their own citizens to be effective. But early adopters should still consider ways to encourage others to come on board. This has precedent. The European Union is trying to influence global policy with its carbon border adjustments, which are designed to discourage people from buying carbon-intensive products abroad in order to skirt taxes. Similar rules for a proof-of-work tax could persuade other countries to adopt one.

Of course, some people will try to evade the tax, just as people evade every other tax. For example, people might buy tax-free coins on centralized exchanges and then swap them for polluting coins on decentralized exchanges. To some extent, this is inevitable; no tax is perfect. But the effort and technical know-how needed to evade a proof-of-work tax will be a major deterrent.

Even if only a few countries implement this tax—and even if some people evade it—the desirability of bitcoin will fall globally, and the environmental benefit will be significant. A high enough tax could also cause a self-reinforcing cycle that will drive down these cryptocurrencies’ prices. Because the value of many cryptocurrencies rely largely on speculation, they are dependent on future buyers. When speculators are deterred by the tax, the lack of demand will cause the price of bitcoin to fall, which could prompt more current holders to sell—further lowering prices and accelerating the effect. Declining prices will pressure the bitcoin community to abandon proof of work altogether.

Taxing proof-of-work exchanges might hurt them in the short run, but it would not hinder blockchain innovation. Instead, it would redirect innovation toward greener cryptocurrencies. This is no different than how government incentives for electric vehicles encourage carmakers to improve green alternatives to the internal combustion engine. These incentives don’t restrict innovation in automobiles—they promote it.

Taxing environmentally harmful cryptocurrencies can gain support across the political spectrum, from people with varied interests. It would benefit blockchain innovators and cryptocurrency researchers by shifting focus from environmental harm to beneficial uses of the technology. It has the potential to make our planet significantly greener. It would increase government revenues.

Even bitcoin maximalists have reason to embrace the proposal: it would offer the bitcoin community a chance to prove it can survive and grow sustainably.

This essay was written with Christos Porios, and previously appeared in the Atlantic.

Posted on January 4, 2023 at 7:17 AM47 Comments

Comments

Givon Zirkind January 4, 2023 8:44 AM

Amusing. Cute. The hypocrisy of millennials and the advavantgarde, save-the-world, use-technology crowd. Cryptocurrency, the money of the digital age and future is a pollution hazard. 🙂

Ted January 4, 2023 9:04 AM

I’m intrigued by the idea of taxing proof-of-work purchases at the exchanges.

I’m not sure how tax authorities are integrated at these points. Would this require a new tax form?

echo January 4, 2023 9:46 AM

Taxation sounds like a backdoor to justify cryptocurrencies.

Most people use cryptocurrences to bypass “corporate made law” (which isn’t actually law) or administrative headaches such as ID paperwork. The rest are small speculators managing mostly self-managing their own pension schemes or speculatively investing because traditional schemes and investments don’t offer the value they demand. They of course assume the whole risk for that.

Most inputs and outputs from the cryptocurrency system pass through regulated transaction houses.

Cryptocurrency cannot compete on an energy-return basis with normal payments processing.

And the clincher: if you can tax it you can ban it.

Don’t believe everything you read in the newspapers especially gee-whiz articles sneaking past editors a bit too keen to appear relevant…

Clive Robinson January 4, 2023 9:55 AM

@ Bruce, ALL,

Re : Can you kill a belief?

The thing about many involved with crypto-coins is that many realy are “evangelists” they believe in “the mission” not “the reality”.

They have bought into the “free from government” fiat currencies notion and appear to be willing to pay any price for it (there are figures that suggest that after normalisation, more has been spent on bitcoin than it is actually worth).

Whilst there is money to be made in being a miner the cost of doing it effectively is a large tax in it’s own right that has kept many a silicon chip fab plant open.

The actual money is to be made on the exchanges, which many have started to notice are pretty much “rigged markets”.

But the “no fiat currancy” mantra is powerfull even though it is already essentially untrue. If we want to get rod of the “polution” we need to get rid of the reason for it.

But I feel too many of those speculating with crypto-coin are like those old timers, who will drink thrmselves blind on gut-rot moonshine, not because of cost but the fact it’s “free of duty” thus somehow “sticking it to the man”…

LaCrosse January 4, 2023 10:25 AM

@Givon Zirkind

…yeah, the whole mindset & cultish CO2 AGW junk science is amusing.

No hard science whatsoever that CO2 has/does/will/can increase global average surface temperatures.

CO2 is merely a trace gas; Global average concentration of CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere is about 0.04 % … Argon gas is 40 times more prevalent than CO2

if one believes the unproven theory of a global Greenhouse effect, water vapor is your real worry.
Water Vapor IR absorbtions vastly exceed any possible IR effects of CO2,

Brenden Walker January 4, 2023 10:47 AM

This will all be very amusing.

IMO cryptocurrencies are going to collapse, maybe continue limping along as a black/gray market currency.

Imagine if governments get their snouts into that trough. They’ll glut on the money, spending $0 for intended purpose and then boom it disappears. The agency created to administer this will not go away, they will become another useless government boondoggle forever wasting taxpayers money.

Denton Scratch January 4, 2023 10:48 AM

If an exchange fails to comply, it should be banned.

How would this affect an “exchange” like bitcoinlocal or localmonero? These “exchanges” never see my fiat or the seller’s coin. In fact they can be used to arrange an in-person meeting, where the deal can be transacted entirely privately.

Banning those “local” exchanges is all very well, if you have the jurisdictional reach; but they are pretty insubstantial operations – they could be replaced by a Reddit group or a mailing list. How do you ban a mailing list?

How do you ban people from privately swapping thing X that they own, for thing Y that someone else owns? Like, you can tax fiat income that someone gains from the transaction, when they report their earnings to the tax authorities (with supporting bank statements); but I don’t see how you can distinguish fiat earned from (say) selling a painting from fiat earned by selling bitcoin.

I don’t think this is properly thought-through.

Sumadelet January 4, 2023 11:15 AM

Taxes, like laws, do not need to be perfectly applied for them to be effective. Once one has an obligation to pay a tax, then not doing so opens up the possibility of being prosecuted for tax evasion, which tends to be serious. Remember, Al Capone was imprisoned for tax evasion, not racketeering or murder.
If an imperfect tax raises more revenue than it costs to administer, it is successful: and if the side effect is to reduce anthropogenic climate change, then that is even more positive. Governments can also use excess revenue over costs to fund improved enforcement.

MGJ January 4, 2023 12:07 PM

@Clive Robinson

Belief and proselytizing has propped up BitCoin since it’s inception. It started off with a belief in creating a new medium of exchange, and very quickly was associated with nefarious behaviours. Then it became an investment vehicle open to manipulation in ways that would have made the Hunt brothers harder than quartzite.

@LaCrosse

Argon isn’t absorbed readily by the largest heat sink on Earth – bodies of water. Slight increases of CO2 absorption by bodies of water can lead to devastating cascade effects on natural habitats, increase it enough and you get the joy of acid rain.

Winter January 4, 2023 12:09 PM

@LaCross

No hard science whatsoever that CO2 has/does/will/can increase global average surface temperatures.

There are also people who claim the same about a round earth or the moon landing.

if one believes the unproven theory of a global Greenhouse effect, water vapor is your real worry.
Water Vapor IR absorbtions vastly exceed any possible IR effects of CO2,

That’s why they incorporated water vapor in all climate models. Didn’t you know?

modem phonemes January 4, 2023 12:17 PM

Has the game M$n$p$l$ been updated to include cryptocurrency, environmental burdens, taxes and so on ?

If not, why not ? Enquiring minds want to know.

John Tillotson January 4, 2023 1:59 PM

So if a bitcoin is mined and then held for a long time, and then converted into fiat currency, the tax is paid one time.

If a bitcoin is mined and changes hands many times before conversion to fiat currency, then it is taxed many times.

Is it fair to tax one bitcoin many times and another only once, when the consequence to be mitigated is the ecological cost to mine the bitcoin, which only happens one time? If it is not, then this may be an unfair tax.

echo January 4, 2023 2:41 PM

Banning those “local” exchanges is all very well, if you have the jurisdictional reach; but they are pretty insubstantial operations – they could be replaced by a Reddit group or a mailing list. How do you ban a mailing list?,

Banning is effective. Ask any proscribed organisation or sex pest languishing in jail. You just need to disrupt the process at any stage.

A big one is publicity. If media don’t make an issue of things they don’t advertise it. Social media isn’t above the law either. That culls a large number of people who might be curious by removing the gateway drug and bilateral communications. Then there is the issue of getting money in and getting money out. If you can tax it you can find the money. If you can find the money you can ban it.

It’s no different from dealing with far right activity. A few bad mainstream news outlets being irresponsible and a keyboard and they all think they’re God’s gift. The thing is all this can be regulated, tracked and traced, and dealt with. Just ask the Proud Boys or Golden Dawn.

International jurisdictions are a fairly well solved problem now. Just ask Andrew Tate. As for criminal regimes good luck moving your money around. Just ask the Russians.

JonKnowsNothing January 4, 2023 2:45 PM

@John Tillotson, All

re: Taxable Events

Rules vary by country and economic system. In the USA, taxes are applied based on Taxable Events.

  • If buy and hold long term, then sell is 1 taxable event (aka Long Term Capital Gain)
  • If buy and sell, buy and sell, buy and sell these are 3 taxable events (aka Short Term Capital Gains)

In the first case there is a single transaction held by the same entity. In the second there are 3 transactions, held by 3 entities. Each entity may engage in Short Term sales taxes or hold for Long Term taxes.

Each time money or goods or items of value, change hands that is a taxable event. There are some carve outs or alterations to how much tax is paid for each instance.

  • Purchasing Real Estate and flipping it or holding it for personal use or renting it for income.
    • Flipping is short term sales and taxed at that tier
    • Holding for use, depends on how long before it is sold. It might be Short Term, Long Term or Inheritance Taxed. Details on inheritance taxes are complex.
    • Rental income is current income (like a salary) and is taxed under current tax rates.

How the bitcoin taxation would work is probably and offset, since the coin itself is mined once and the miner would get the mining-tax. Subsequent buyers are buying a finished good. There are no enhancements being made to the coin. Maintenance costs of keeping the electronics live, to hold the memory of the coin are likely a reduction in the amount of taxable event when the coin is resold

    • Miner gets a depletion tax similar to oil, gas and mineral extractions.
    • Buyer 1 buys the item after the extraction.
    • Buyer 1 sells to Buyer 2 and Buyer 1 incurs a taxable event. Either a gain or a loss.
    • Buyer 2 only pays a tax when the coin changes hands: either through sale, inheritance or as a write off if the coin value is less than they originally paid for

People are very clever at evading taxes. No matter who enacts such a tax, the clever ones will find a way to not pay it. This is the current strategy with Off Shore Tax Havens, which are abundant in location and offerings. The USA has quite a few: Delaware, Nevada and others, plus there are specific carve outs in states or by federal laws to exempt certain activities and sales from taxation.

A possible example is:

  • There is a tax on coin mining
  • Mining consumes electricity.
  • Electricity is already taxed by State Laws at Specific Rates
  • As there is a tax already paid on the item, any Mining Tax would allow an offset for taxes paid for use of the Electrical Grid.

These types of offsets are common to business. They are called Operating Expenses. They are treated as a 1:1 offset against any profit. Total offsets subtracted from Profit yields Taxable Income.

If you have enough business expenses, your taxable income can be zero or less than zero.

There is no rule that says you must be profitable. You can run a business at a loss as long as you have Capital to keep it running. You may have to show the IRS and State Tax Agencies that you are running the business as a “For Profit Motive” and that you have the “Possibility of Making A Profit” in the future.

Which is why Race Horses are a Business. Backyard or Lawn Ornament horses are Not a Business.

Cardanian January 4, 2023 2:47 PM

It’s ironic you mentioned Ethereum switching to PoS but failed to mention possibly the most technically advanced cryptocurrency with PoS built in from the outset rather than an afterthought as w/Ethereum – Cardano, which has built an entire ecosystem that far exceeds in scope what either Bitcoin or Ethereum has done.

MarkH January 4, 2023 3:15 PM

@John Tillotson:

The BitCon “mining” operation has two functions. It not only yields a new “coin” (eventually), but also is necessary to incorporate recent transactions into the public ledger.

In other words, these ultra costly computations would be needed for transactions, even if there were no new “currency.”

In this light, taxing transactions perhaps seems more appropriate.

echo January 4, 2023 5:17 PM

I feel this whole discussion is a male ego thing. Everyone is just piling in a race to the end context free way to solve the wrong problem. Honestly! The group think in here.

It’s sounds a lot like the author of the original article is arguing how you can be greedy and good, and (mostly) everyone bought it. It’s also a form of capitalism taken to the extreme with a justification that somehow the pollution can be offset with mitigations. I’m scratching my head how a nominal level of tax can pay for mitigating the pollution and pressure on energy resources. It’s not as if they cost zero. The whole scheme is like corruption by Russian money. Media, politicians, accountants and other enablers all leaping on the bandwagon. Even this forum has bought into the fever dream and is enabling it.

Banks need to ask where the money is coming and going from. Nobody has answered how to get around that.

Most (not all) of the big exchanges have to go through banks to accept payment and extract profit and are subject to ID requirements. Even no-id exchanges facilitating P2P transactions are pretty much in the same environment only not covered by regulation as they don’t take regulated bank or payment processor payment for cryptocurrency. Nobody has commented on that either.

As I said quite a long time ago now it’s not what is said it’s what isn’t said. The original article is persuasive but neglects a lot of things. Bruce doesn’t comment on them either. It will be interesting to see what contorted forms of logic people are going to pull to dodge these issues.

David Leppik January 4, 2023 5:42 PM

This tax hits at the hypocrisy which is central to modern crypto: the selling point is that it is decentralized, anonymous, and outside the scope of traditional economic activity. In practice it is hardly more decentralized than Amazon Marketplace. For any form of crypto (it doesn’t fit the definition of currency) there are a small number of exchanges and miners doing the vast majority of the work. Economies of scale are too powerful for it to be otherwise. As with Amazon charging sales tax, you only need the exchange to get on board to make it difficult to avoid.

Crypto is a speculative investment, so perception is more important than reality for its value. Thus the mere belief that a tax will be levied can be just as important to the price as actually imposing the tax.

Baabak January 4, 2023 5:48 PM

After reading this post, I have no doubt that you have a scandal and a blackmailed person.

John Levine January 4, 2023 6:58 PM

Given that Binance refuses to tell where it’s located and does not as far as I know file tax returns anywhere, I don’t see how you’re going to get them to collect a carbon tax, no matter how desirable it is.

Personally, I’m on board with the let it all burn down approach. Cryptocurrencies don’t need much help to persuade people that they’re a scam for suckers.

Chris January 5, 2023 3:51 AM

One more “Bitcoin is bad” text.

Why not tax energy instead? Then many of the other “unnessesary” digital solution also would stop wasting energy.

Many bitcoin farms use renewable energy sources to increase the profit. So could it be the opposite way? Embrace bitcoin and we get a better world.

echo January 5, 2023 6:14 AM

Many bitcoin farms use renewable energy sources to increase the profit. So could it be the opposite way? Embrace bitcoin and we get a better world.

Which doesn’t answer my question in comment two paragraph two.

It’s also a form of capitalism taken to the extreme with a justification that somehow the pollution can be offset with mitigations. I’m scratching my head how a nominal level of tax can pay for mitigating the pollution and pressure on energy resources. It’s not as if they cost zero.

So we have a vague claim about a “better world”. Like you mean Russian and Chinese foreign policy on global currencies?

We also have a vague assertion about magical cost free instantly appearing C02 power stations.

There is an absence of fact checking and logic. This may pass on the internet or television studios when spouted by shoot from the hip populist politicians and similar egos. It wouldn’t get through a formal inquiry or court case.

As for the anarchist/libertarian daydreaming about cryptocurrency being the route to an undefined utopia…

Cryptocurrency is a cult.

Winter January 5, 2023 6:36 AM

@echo

So could it be the opposite way? Embrace bitcoin and we get a better world.

No, one cause of the problems is that the damage done by CO2 release is not paid by the polluter. The cost of the production is now paid by the vicitms that did not benefit from the production. The tax could be levied at the the cost of remediating the damage. If it is “better” to produce more CO2 and then live with the consequences, the polluters should pay for the damages created by the CO2.

This is not so much about the survival of humanity (who would pay for that?), but about the way the costs of the production have been externalized and are paid not by those who benefit from the production causing the pollution, but by third parties that had no say in it and did not benefit from it.

echo January 5, 2023 6:53 AM

@Winter

I broke my reply by goofing the blockquote. I was quoting Chris in the previous post.

Many bitcoin farms use renewable energy sources to increase the profit. So could it be the opposite way? Embrace bitcoin and we get a better world.

My reply followed after this…

Your comment basically said what I said only was more detailed and comprehensive.

Who? January 5, 2023 7:15 AM

For God’s sake, Bruce. I did not expect to see you playing the government agenda!

CO2 emissions are NOT the problem, and have never been.

Do you know the amount of CO2 emissions for a SINGLE Google search? Seriously, a single Google search is much worse for the planet than making a transaction over lightning network. However, it has never been a problem! Even these days it is considered ‘acceptable.’

What about traditional banks? Do you know the amount of emissions for all banks computer infrastructure? It has never been the problem either.

Electric cars are not a problem either. Do electric cars run on zero-point energy? I doubt it. Not to say those huge five hundred kilogram batteries cannot be recycled, and lithium supply is limited.

Government want proof of work being banned, and all cryptoassets moving to proof of stake. Why? Because it means those assets WILL BE CENTRALIZED, so they will be easier to control. Governments do not want Bitcoin because there is no way they can stop it, it is censorship resistant right now. A proof of stake Bitcoin will be easier to ban, attack or control than current technology. I would bet this hypothetical centralized bitcoin would be run from the United States, am I wrong?

China banned bitcoin for the very same reason: they are unsettled with an asset they cannot control either. In fact, China represents the new capitalism (I would name it comunist capitalism.) They are ten years ahead of us in control, surveillance and capitalism. Look at China to see how our world will be in a decade. It is hardly a country I would put as an example of anything.

Countries like Russia have done it ‘better,’ in the sense they have prohibited cryptoactives for population but allow it for ‘government business.’ Obviously taking this step will be slightly challenging in our countries. People has not been tamed enough yet. But I am sure, our governments will do their best to achieve this goal.

No, Bruce, the proof of stake vs proof of work matter is not about energy, it is just about CONTROL. So easy to understand no one will see it until it is too late.

The world run on lies. Proof of work is too computing intensive? Just as Google is, but it seems Google has never been a problem. Energy is too expensive as a consequence of war in Ukraine? Only if this war has a retroactive effect in energy price. Just as we living in democracy… oligocracy at best, and sometimes I even doubt it.

Bruce, Governments have an agenda. They are playing in the same league as the citizens, but do not take it wrong, they are not on our team.

John Tillotson January 5, 2023 7:18 AM

@MarkH

Thank you for enlightening me. That would definitely make the tax on transactions more fair, IMHO.

Gert-Jan January 5, 2023 7:24 AM

There are levies on fossile fuels, depending on the country and how it’s used. These levies / taxes differ from country to country. Some industries are still exempt, such as the shipping and air travel industry.

Basically this proposal would extends such tax to electricity for crypto currency mining, regardless of how it is produced,

I don’t think this fits on the existing taxes. How the electricity is generated seems crucial to me. There’s no issue if all energy generated would be green, right?

Some may feel discomfort when crypto miners use green energy, when there’s insufficient green energy for all. But why are crypto miners the bad guys? I can think of more / other energy use that I find despicable.

If we want to differentiate the price of energy based on how “good” its purpose is, then we need a good framework for it and a hell of a good discussion. I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Who? January 5, 2023 7:24 AM

By the way, Bruce, we are moving to a really dark world. As soon as CBDCs are approved, and paper money banned, Governments will have an ABSOLUTE CONTROL over population. They will be able to kill a citizen by just blocking their bank account. Right now, if you have your bank account blocked you can survive some time with paper money. You can buy food, and pay transport, and a cell phone (for those that use smartphones). With digital currencies you will be dead in a matter of days.

Not to say, governments can decide if your digital [dollar, euro, yuan] can be spent on some items and not on others, if you can use it outside of a country or how much time it will last before being ‘burnt.’

Right now, Bitcoin is our only hope to avoid this dystopic future. And it is because they cannot control it. A proof of stake Bitcoin will be no different from those CBDCs.

echo January 5, 2023 8:14 AM

It’s becoming clearer what is happening behind the argument to tax cryptocurrencies as a means to legitimise them with, presumably, no consideration of the bigger picture and details. A vested interest with the money (that’s real money not “cryptocurrency” to spend on marketers and lawyers has issued a press release:

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/01/04/indians-moved-over-38b-to-foreign-exchanges-since-crypto-tax-rules-research-study/

If we wind back a little the first biggest bubble was in the US. When this market tapped out the market shifted to India. Now Indians traditionally store their savings in low carat gold (aka Indian gold) gold jewellery. as the bubble shifted to India so Indian consumer levels of gold purchases fell off a cliff. So that brings us to where we are today.

They don’t just want taxes as a way of subverting scrutiny but very low taxes which isn’t a solution to anything at all and makes everything much much worse.

As for the alleged billions of cryptocurrency moving offshore? They’re virtual. Nobody cares where they are nor does it matter.

All the authorities have to do is disrupt the killchain in one place and the whole cryptocurrency scheme tumbles.

Indians Moved Over $3.8B to Foreign Exchanges Since Crypto Tax Rules
A study from the Esya Centre provides the first monetary estimate of what effect the country’s crypto taxes has had on domestic trading platforms.

Now we can all have our arguments over the UN and dominance of the dollar. But this neglects a few things. The international rules based order has largely avoided major wars and brought a lot of good. Demolishing the dollar is a foreign policy goal of Russia and China who are problematic for their own reasons. I haven’t read a single cryptocurrency advocate take any of this into account. Thus far their arguments go no further that “But but de gubbermint but but freedom mutter mutter” so can be dismissed out of hand.

Some may feel discomfort when crypto miners use green energy, when there’s insufficient green energy for all. But why are crypto miners the bad guys? I can think of more / other energy use that I find despicable.

As I had already commented power stations do not magically appear out of thin air cost free. A power station built here means another one cannot be built there. We are in the middle of an existential threat to the wellbeing of the planet and a possible extinction threat to humanity. As many resources as possible as fast as possible must go into the critical path not keyboard warriors hobbies.

As soon as CBDCs are approved, and paper money banned, Governments will have an ABSOLUTE CONTROL over population. They will be able to kill a citizen by just blocking their bank account. Right now, if you have your bank account blocked you can survive some time with paper money. You can buy food, and pay transport, and a cell phone (for those that use smartphones). With digital currencies you will be dead in a matter of days.

Not really. As things stand if the cashpoints stopped working you’d be out of paper cash funds in a few days to a month with your life expectancy measured accordingly. In reality we also live in this thing called “society”. Things would have to be very very very far gone for this scenario to be the end of you.

If they’re going after your bank account odds on they know who you are and how to find you or make life more difficult anyway. If in doubt just look at the misogynistic sex pest Andrew Tate and his brother. They just had £5M worth of luxury cars impounded. I think those cars are worth a packed lunch or two if you’re into bartering not that they are needing this as they are getting free food in jail.

PattiMichelle January 5, 2023 9:39 AM

You can’t “decarbonize” crypto!! (Fer chrissakes!) If you burn carbon (to make power), then it’s in the air for thousands of years, destroying the Holocene. Politicians (and entrepreneurs, exploiters, shysters, etc.) use the word “decarbonize” is a “doublespeak” word – used to support further making money off of non-scientists (and dishonest scientists). For anyone who has run a late-model crypto miner, you KNOW how much power it takes, and can easily then estimate just how much crypto is accelerating Climate Breakdown based on the coin production rate.

Also, the primary use of crypto these days is to support porn, human trafficking, and ransomware.

piglet January 5, 2023 10:45 AM

“The good news is that cryptocurrencies don’t have to be carbon intensive. In fact, some have near-zero emissions.”

After Ethereum gave up proof of work, an expert said that Ethereum was now on the order of 1000 times more efficient than Bitcoin, but traditional bank payment networks were still on the order of 1000 times more efficient than Ethereum. If cryptocurrencies ever became a widely used payment option, it would still be disastrous for the environment even if they didn’t use PoW. Fortunately this is very unlikely to happen.

I like the idea of taxing cryptocurrencies. It would be the quickest way of putting a stake through the zombie. (Ok bad metaphor – couldn’t resist 😉

Aaron January 5, 2023 11:49 AM

Energy is an element of freedom. When used as a form of punishment, those who seek to alter it’s purpose are the enemy of the individual.

Quantry January 5, 2023 11:56 AM

@ Who? Re your:

Right now, if you have your bank account blocked you can survive some time with paper money.

and @ echo ‘s comment Re: the same, (see above)

they know …how to …make life more difficult anyway

For example I’ve just been evicted after six years by the government from where I live, unless I provide fingerprints by end of January. I have paper money, but my personal conviction about this could make this corporeally “non-survivable”.

Effectively, “WE CANT BE SURE YOU ARE THE SAME PERSON”. They also told the man who’s been running the place for 20 years the same thing, …”OR BE FORCED TO ABORT”.

Since 2000 “Government” have frozen my retirement savings fund when I was literally on the street with no cash, hacked all three of my previous phones daily, denied renewal of my driver license for being without an address, tainted my employers and landlords, incited MANY people to numerous illegal acts against my person and property, baiting endlessly… etc ad nauseum, every hour: 24 x365 days a year.

Why? It seems they may think I predicted 9-11 by years and publicly by a year[*], and additionally later rebuked ‘them’ publicly for the murder of an unarmed 300-pound map-maker who’d had a very bad, very long day, and [I claim] was showing obvious signs of being critically hypoglycemic.

Despite all of that, keep in mind that conscientious persons far outweigh those who are blinded by “MIGHT IS RIGHT”. Focus forward. Your mission is NOT advanced by obsessing about vultures who need psilocybin therapy, and climate, and potential of Central Bank Digital Currency: Plant a garden, befriend and barter with farmers…

[*] Might be on ‘way-back’. My info then was anything but specific, but I still feel dis-inclined to give the search terms. Believe or don’t.

Who? January 5, 2023 3:05 PM

@ piglet

After Ethereum gave up proof of work, an expert said that Ethereum was now on the order of 1000 times more efficient than Bitcoin, but traditional bank payment networks were still on the order of 1000 times more efficient than Ethereum. If cryptocurrencies ever became a widely used payment option, it would still be disastrous for the environment even if they didn’t use PoW. Fortunately this is very unlikely to happen.

The ethereum network has not improved its performance at all after moving from PoW to PoS. On the contrary, it seems slightly slower.

Both bitcoin and ethereum networks are much faster than traditional bank payment. I doubt a traditional bank can move assets between international accounts in less than eight minutes (and it is the time required to complete a transaction over the traditional bitcoin network, not the payment-targeted ultra fast lightning network).

On the other hand, do banks allow you to do a transfer of a few hundred million dollars between accounts paying only a gas fee of 10 USD?

Who? January 5, 2023 3:16 PM

An example of a random transaction that happened a few seconds ago:

hxxps://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/fbf11d68fe58e0408936ee827393a01061b7e5b3c94e280b42b736f7cccc028d

The amount transferred was $36,069.46 USD, with a fee of $0.18 USD. It will be completed in the next minutes.

Phillip January 5, 2023 4:58 PM

Price of Bitcoin must reflect the energy input, be it dirty or otherwise. Dubious how green it might be. And this is only accumulating to keep the scheme running. Focus – it is nothing personal.

Who? January 6, 2023 7:23 AM

@ Phillip

Investment theory dictates that asset prices are determined through market pricing by supply and demand. Period.

Who? January 6, 2023 7:38 AM

Two reasons the ‘decarbonizing cryptocurrencies through taxation’ proposal will never work:

  1. I fail to see the relation between cryptocurrency taxation and being green, and I fear I am not alone here.
  2. The United States do not rule the world, only a part of North America. Taxation means that people will move to other, in some cases more reputable, exchanges outside the United States. Same about miners.

Welcome to the globalization.

echo January 6, 2023 10:33 AM

The United States do not rule the world, only a part of North America. Taxation means that people will move to other, in some cases more reputable, exchanges outside the United States. Same about miners.

Well, there is also more to the world than the USA too (who seem to be among the worst offenders from a legislative and regulation and niche media and financial involvement point of view). For example: the “United Nations Climate Change Conference” is a thing. So are individual countries or trading block conditions attached trade agreements and aid grants. So is human rights and environment regulation and due diligence with respect to the provision of goods and services and inward investment.

Interpol is a thing too.

You can also put the necessary hardware on a watch list for action or enhanced monitoring. And yes those kinds of watchlists do exist and yes people have been arrested because they tripped them.

The reason why we have an ozone layer as opposed to no ozone layer is because CFC’s were banned in a similar way. Better to start banning cryptocurrency (and bringing forward regulations and investment other measures to avoid more climate change) now rather than later.

Clive Robinson January 6, 2023 10:33 AM

@ Who?, Phillip,

Re : Supply and Demand masks.

“Investment theory dictates that asset prices are determined through market pricing by supply and demand.”

The thing is “supply and “demand” are actually “masking terms” to in effect help hide the hidden hand.

Utility theory gives a different perspective and partly covers what goes on, the thing is underlying all is the norion of “rational actors” behaving well “rationaly” with the reality being this seldom happens.

Which is why “Confidence tricksters” or “Con Artists” get to behave like “used car” or “repo property” salesmen making you the offer of a life time…

Any sensible analysis of the types of crypto coin using a “block-chain with proof of work” can be seen to be set up as not a currancy but a faux-investment vehicle being used for either or both a long con or a short con.

In effect the rules demand that the cost of new coins has to rise at some power law in effect saying that each new coin has two intrinsic properties,

1, It cost more to make than any coin before it.
2, It has a proportionatly less share of the pot than any coin before it.

So each new coin tends towards ifinite cost for zero value…

The only way an investment can make sense in those terms is if the perceived market value of each coin rises faster than the cost of making it. For that to happen there has to be a value added mechanism that is reliable.

So this is where you play a game of “Where’s Wally?” trying to find the real value added mechanism in amoungst the noise, if of course there actually is one and it’s legal…

M January 7, 2023 5:54 PM

  1. Its carbon that makes world greener.
  2. Making change through stick (tax) not incentive (carrot) will not work.

Retrospex January 10, 2023 6:39 AM

@ Clive Robinson,

Re: two intrinsic properties
“1, It cost more to make than any coin before it.”
This is not necessarily true, and there is no demand for the cost of coin producing to rise. Costs of ‘making’ coins and coinprice keeps finding a equilibrium, and at least in Bitcoin due to the hashrate difficulty adjustment there is no power law over time on the quantities of ‘make’ cost and share of the pot (nor is this necessary to make Bitcoin ‘make sense’). As long as there is (financially) extractable value in a coin, there will be an incentive to ‘mine’/’make’ it, only the actors on this incentive will have to have some pre-conditions re. energyprice, equipment and coinprice to be profitable

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