... to all and/or anyone, on the Unknown, theories, odd present, past, futures... and on implausible secrets...
@Clive Robinson, Harry Johnston
Thank you for your responses. Very much not my field, and to a lesser degree not a field which I have looked into too much yet. But looking like about time to do so. I did get into theoretical physics as a youngster but decided against that life course to go into hacking and intelligence instead. (Family, you know. Parents and their will.)
@Henry Hoyt, Blake
Thank you for throwing some good doubt and open mindedness onto the fire. Whenever there seems to be a strong consensus over an Unknown, this is most healthy until that Unknown is fully made "tangible", known.
Enormously fascinating thread. Excellent posts all around. This certainly brought some interesting folks out of the forest.
Especially your posts. Exceptional intellect.
Though, :-), a bit of a head scratcher when one places a TM after "Real World", lol. ie, "Real World (TM)"... I hope whomever holds a patent on the Dream of the "Real World" does not put us in this situation:
The last limitation means that anybody who makes an implementation with paying the license fees to the IP owner is breaking the law, and that it will never be adopted by the GNU/Linux community which is such a large part of Earth's communication infrastructure.
We debate security topics all the time -- reasonable people disagreeing.
If someone posts that he's just invented a cipher which nobody can break, we can be very confident that he is (a) deeply ignorant, and (b) culpably ignorant, because he is almost certainly intelligent enough to learn and understand his foolishness. This crosses the line of reasonable disagreement.
Well, the foregoing are the opinions of one fool, anyway. I'm sure that reasonable people will disagree.
I think your self, like most of the posters on here, are exceptionally intellectually talented individuals. So you know what it is to live a very rarefied existence. Put another way, that very rarefied existence is a highly improbable existence.
All such people also know what it is to therefore be quite separated from the "mainstream" or "masses". You have been privy to many matters which you are aware of are very rarefied through your entire life. For intellectuals, this often means matters which one simply thinks of or understands. Though, the reality is this is little different from the experience of others with very rarefied lives.
You know what it means for people to be wrong. That they are so certain, and so certainly incorrect. That so much of what you know to be true, you could not even begin to explain.
There are other classes of human beings with such rarefied lives, of course. As lonely as such existences can seem. There are the super wealthy, the super powerful, the very famous... there are those who have had lives of unparalleled and unusual adventure... those who have had just the briefest brushes with impossible fortune or fate. The win of an ever so rare lottery ticket.
It is true, one can never know for sure what goes about the lives of others, for one could never know for sure of your own life. Not from a distance anyway. Though, coming close, one does see and gain understanding. Not unlike approaching a strange planet, which looks so different from afar.
How often is a person truly *astonished*? How often is a person able to say in their lives that they have been overcome with surprise, or known deep shock? Not to little wonder of coming across something interesting, but the sort of great wonder and awe of the vastly impossible. The extraordinary kept from the eyes of all evidence of possibility? Scour the history books, scour the news. No trace of it anywhere, hidden from all eyes.
For the intellectual, everything should be *reasonable*, and we can often approach that which can not be explained reasonably as if it is *foolish*. We can become very accustomed to the foolish. People operating irrationally, without purpose, without conscious deliberation. Coming to strongly held beliefs which they have never challenged in the least. All so often they believe according to what they want to believe, by emotion.
And they have an arrogance about that, which is primely frustrating for those who actually bother to try and work so very hard to come to strongly held beliefs only by reason.
It is work. It is dilligence. It is due dilligence required. It provides strong reward for those who do it. Yet, all about us we see those who skip it all. We continue at it, regardless, because we know we are as susceptible as they. We know the reward and we know the punishment of failing it. Some may cheat and take their reward from foolish delusion, but sooner or later they will hit their wall and come to terms with reality. Then, they will have to pay their debt, substantial as it may be, for not having done their homework.
There are times, plenty of times, when answers simply are not forthcoming.
When the reasoning simply is not going to be explained.
While it is certainly admirable and chivalrous to explain one's reasonings, it is not a required necessity in all settings and in all times.
The wise, or those who well reason out matters consciously others ignore, might chaff at this. They might chalk it off as foolishness then. And, quite often they will be correct. But, very often they will also be incorrect in this surmise. They will have fallen into the error of failing to suspend judgment. Of forgetting the very fact that just as they so often simply can not explain things to those beneath them, intellectually, so too are there surely ample matters which can not be explained to their own selves.
For this can be the error of being in such a rare situation. As rare as one's life can be, there can be rarer. As unknown as one's life is to others, as unknown as others life may be to their own selves. As high as one's intellect may be over so many, so too may there be intellects higher then your own. And as often as one comforts one's self with "knowledge" that one already sees this, the truth be told, one would not. It is an illusion to see peers and those in other fields and say, "They are smarter then I", or "they are as smart as I", when you know you could just as easily have their knowledge if you tried.
And then there is the frustrating unknown. The error of having answers for so much, and not being able to understand the little things for which there is no answer. Or grappling with just how many answers have strong reasoning behind them... but the confidence in those answers being correct, and not a fool's errand, an edifice of plausible but incorrect answers... and realizing this is, too, an impossibility. For all that we know, we never know enough of.