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Paul Crowley • April 14, 2009 7:31 AM
See also:
Terror suspects “took photographs while brown”, News of the News, 2009-04-11
More seriously, Craig Murray is also interesting.
Paul Crowley • April 14, 2009 7:37 AM
Damn, links were stripped from the above, I’m afraid you’ll have to Google.
HumHo • April 14, 2009 10:09 AM
Apropos Google, I know this does not really belong here but I happened to do a search for “virtual credit card” and one of the sponsored links on the right side of the screen has this ad:
Cvv Cvv2 Cvs Check Tool
Don’t Waste Time For Check
Check Cvv Fast And Easy
cvvchecker5.51vip.biz/
That URL took me to a website where someone is selling bank login details, among other things.
Does anyone know how I can report this to google? I would like that site to be shut down if possible.
Thanks
sooth sayer • April 14, 2009 10:14 AM
Interesting read — but for the comments above – it seems feeding frenzy for the liberatie.
HumHo • April 14, 2009 10:19 AM
The governments consider none of our private information as a secret.
They only consider that which they accuse us of as a secret.
Anonymous • April 14, 2009 10:42 AM
@HoHum I dont know how to report it to google, but you can report it to the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov/.
Davi Ottenheimer • April 14, 2009 11:26 AM
Nicely written article. I enjoyed the bit about elderly women and those with prams being spies. Here’s a choice quote:
“There is real danger that our immigration controls will be able to catch only those who are already known to the authorities and will be helpless to detect first-time terrorists and illegal immigrants.” Chris Grayling, the shadow home secretary, said: “This is a completely shambolic system.”
Hey, just like anti-virus software!
And here’s my take on women who are spies:
Davi Ottenheimer • April 14, 2009 11:50 AM
“for the liberatie”
Love how this term appears to pitch literacy as some sort of conspiracy by the left. Reminds me of a recent video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwdOwgD5OsY
A man at a “Project 912 Glenn Beck Tea Party” lectures that the US finally has been infiltrated by the Communist Party (the old John Birch Society argument) and now brainwashing machines (digital cable) have been planted in homes by the government. Fox news is apparently the only truth.
The anti-gov’t anti-tax frenzy reaches a book-burning pitch at the end of the video:
Woman: Burn the books!
Man: I don’t think you were serious about that, were you?
Woman: I am too.
Man: Burn all the books?
Woman: The ones in college, those, those brainwashing books.
Man: Brainwashing books?
Woman: Yes.
Man: Which ones are those?
Woman: Like, the evolution crap, and, yeah…
Cress • April 14, 2009 1:02 PM
Thank you Davi, that youtube video made me chortle quite a bit 😀
Googler@Home • April 14, 2009 2:25 PM
@HumHo
I found this posted by the AdWordsPro account (another Googler) at the adwords-help-guidelines support group. Hope it helps, and thanks for caring: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/request.py?display=feedback
Clive Robinson • April 14, 2009 3:02 PM
@ Romeo Vitelli,
“Will we get to see the actual evidence presented in the trial or will it be kept secret…?”
The first question should be,
“Is there any evidence?”
The second should be,
“Is it credable?”
The third,
“Is it reliable?”
The fourth,
“Is it directly traceable?”
There’s a few more but you come to,
“Will the evidence stand up in a court infront of a doubtfull jury?”
Then it’s time to getting around to asking if there is going to be a trial, before asking your question 😉
The fact that they have released one person for what is bound to be deportation, immediatly sugests that the ground is not firm under foot…
Again for the reporter to mention that they probably had no guns or explosives etc suggests that the only evidence is going to be in the form of documentation.
Or a case of “well we found five kilos of chapaty flour, and if that is mixed with…” (whilst forgetting to mention that the other ingrediants where not found nor evidence they where ever sought).
They might even trot out the “green potato and nicotien poison” one again who knows.
What ever it is will no doubt be a bit suspect (think energy drinks, poetry etc). But give us all something to chew over.
The simple fact is if (and it’s a big if) they are terrorists, are they likley to have any incriminating evidence around?
The simple answer is (if they have any sense very) unlikley.
And if they do the chances are that it is stuff you might find around many peoples homes (like chapati flour barbaque / camping gas / firelighters, cake incrediants, hair dressing chemicals or plumbing bits and pieces)…
We will just have to wait and see.
bob • April 14, 2009 3:09 PM
@Clive Robinson: In the US they love to report when someone is arrested for (whatever, usually drugs) that they “also had cash and guns” on the premises.
Oh my! Cash and guns; those have been unlawful since – oh, wait they are legal; just like TVs, pets or lawn furniture. Of course the suspects will have to sue to get their cash back; the guns will be kept by the police even when ordered by the courts to return them. Even the cash might be kept because large quantities of cash are considered evidence of wrongdoing. And no way would the police be raiding places and taking the money just to be able to keep it. And all because of that peculiar empty spot between the 3rd and 5th amendments (Bill of Rights).
Davi Ottenheimer • April 14, 2009 4:11 PM
@ bob
“large quantities of cash are considered evidence of wrongdoing”
lawn furniture? i think i’d be suspicious if i saw large quantities of lawn furniture too. perhaps that takes us back to “large” or unusual as the operative words for determining wrongdoing instead of the thing(s) it describes.
Clive Robinson • April 14, 2009 4:47 PM
@ Davi Ottenheimer,
“… that takes us back to “large” or unusual as the operative words for determining wrongdoing instead of the thing(s) it describes.”
Oh dear that’s me doomed, at 2meters tall and a little under half that wide and looking like a grizzly having a bad hair day I’m both “large” and “unusual” 8)
Such is life I guess I could apply for one of those “spy” jobs, after all it’s only in James Bond movies you get big guys with metal teath (I guess I’ll have to ring the dentist first though 😉
BF Skinner • April 15, 2009 6:15 AM
“doomed, at 2meters tall and a little under half that wide and looking like a grizzly having a bad hair day ”
We always suspected you Clive. Large number of large explicit posts, large wealth of knowledge. Now large size…Must be a villan.
Hmmmm…that feller there Bin Laden?…he’s quite tall.
How useful a criteria. Does DHS know this? It sure would speed up screenings at the airport
(heard today that if your name on your ticket isn’t a letter for letter match with your ID they’ll flag you and deny travel)
Anonymous • April 15, 2009 12:20 PM
@HoHum
It seems Google no longer is showing that advertisement. A whois on the site says their from China.
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Romeo Vitelli • April 14, 2009 6:57 AM
Will we get to see the actual evidence presented in the trial or will it be kept secret for “national security”?