Reimagining Democracy

Imagine that all of us—all of society—have landed on some alien planet and need to form a government: clean slate. We do not have any legacy systems from the United States or any other country. We do not have any special or unique interests to perturb our thinking. How would we govern ourselves? It is unlikely that we would use the systems we have today. Modern representative democracy was the best form of government that eighteenth-century technology could invent. The twenty-first century is very different: scientifically, technically, and philosophically. For example, eighteenth-century democracy was designed under the assumption that travel and communications were both hard.

Indeed, the very idea of representative government was a hack to get around technological limitations. Voting is easier now. Does it still make sense for all of us living in the same place to organize every few years and choose one of us to go to a single big room far away and make laws in our name? Representative districts are organized around geography because that was the only way that made sense two hundred-plus years ago. But we do not need to do it that way anymore. We could organize representation by age: one representative for the thirty-year-olds, another for the forty-year-olds, and so on. We could organize representation randomly: by birthday, perhaps. We can organize in any way we want. American citizens currently elect people to federal posts for terms ranging from two to six years. Would ten years be better for some posts? Would ten days be better for others? There are lots of possibilities. Maybe we can make more use of direct democracy by way of plebiscites. Certainly we do not want all of us, individually, to vote on every amendment to every bill, but what is the optimal balance between votes made in our name and ballot initiatives that we all vote on?

For the past three years, I have organized a series of annual two-day workshops to discuss these and other such questions.1 For each event, I brought together fifty people from around the world: political scientists, economists, law professors, experts in artificial intelligence, activists, government types, historians, science-fiction writers, and more. We did not come up with any answers to our questions—and I would have been surprised if we had—but several themes emerged from the event. Misinformation and propaganda was a theme, of course, and the inability to engage in rational policy discussions when we cannot agree on facts. The deleterious effects of optimizing a political system for economic outcomes was another theme. Given the ability to start over, would anyone design a system of government for the near-term financial interest of the wealthiest few? Another theme was capitalism and how it is or is not intertwined with democracy. While the modern market economy made a lot of sense in the industrial age, it is starting to fray in the information age. What comes after capitalism, and how will it affect the way we govern ourselves?

Many participants examined the effects of technology, especially artificial intelligence (AI). We looked at whether—and when—we might be comfortable ceding power to an AI system. Sometimes deciding is easy. I am happy for an AI system to figure out the optimal timing of traffic lights to ensure the smoothest flow of cars through my city. When will we be able to say the same thing about the setting of interest rates? Or taxation? How would we feel about an AI device in our pocket that voted in our name, thousands of times per day, based on preferences that it inferred from our actions? Or how would we feel if an AI system could determine optimal policy solutions that balanced every voter’s preferences: Would it still make sense to have a legislature and representatives? Possibly we should vote directly for ideas and goals instead, and then leave the details to the computers.

These conversations became more pointed in the second and third years of our workshop, after generative AI exploded onto the internet. Large language models are poised to write laws, enforce both laws and regulations, act as lawyers and judges, and plan political strategy. How this capacity will compare to human expertise and capability is still unclear, but the technology is changing quickly and dramatically. We will not have AI legislators anytime soon, but just as today we accept that all political speeches are professionally written by speechwriters, will we accept that future political speeches will all be written by AI devices? Will legislators accept AI-written legislation, especially when that legislation includes a level of detail that human-based legislation generally does not? And if so, how will that change affect the balance of power between the legislature and the administrative state? Most interestingly, what happens when the AI tools we use to both write and enforce laws start to suggest policy options that are beyond human understanding? Will we accept them, because they work? Or will we reject a system of governance where humans are only nominally in charge?

Scale was another theme of the workshops. The size of modern governments reflects the technology at the time of their founding. European countries and the early American states are a particular size because that was a governable size in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. Larger governments—those of the United States as a whole and of the European Union—reflect a world where travel and communications are easier. Today, though, the problems we have are either local, at the scale of cities and towns, or global. Do we really have need for a political unit the size of France or Virginia? Or is it a mixture of scales that we really need, one that moves effectively between the local and the global?

As to other forms of democracy, we discussed one from history and another made possible by today’s technology. Sortition is a system of choosing political officials randomly. We use it today when we pick juries, but both the ancient Greeks and some cities in Renaissance Italy used it to select major political officials. Today, several countries—largely in Europe—are using the process to decide policy on complex issues. We might randomly choose a few hundred people, representative of the population, to spend a few weeks being briefed by experts, debating the issues, and then deciding on environmental regulations, or a budget, or pretty much anything.

“Liquid democracy” is a way of doing away with elections altogether. The idea is that everyone has a vote and can assign it to anyone they choose. A representative collects the proxies assigned to him or her and can either vote directly on the issues or assign all the proxies to someone else. Perhaps proxies could be divided: this person for economic matters, another for health matters, a third for national defense, and so on. In the purer forms of this system, people might transfer their votes to someone else at any time. There would be no more election days: vote counts might change every day.

And then, there is the question of participation and, more generally, whose interests are taken into account. Early democracies were really not democracies at all; they limited participation by gender, race, and land ownership. These days, to achieve a more comprehensive electorate we could lower the voting age. But, of course, even children too young to vote have rights, and in some cases so do other species. Should future generations be given a “voice,” whatever that means? What about nonhumans, or whole ecosystems? Should everyone have the same volume and type of voice? Right now, in the United States, the very wealthy have much more influence than others do. Should we encode that superiority explicitly? Perhaps younger people should have a more powerful vote than everyone else. Or maybe older people should.

In the workshops, those questions led to others about the limits of democracy. All democracies have boundaries limiting what the majority can decide. We are not allowed to vote Common Knowledge out of existence, for example, but can generally regulate speech to some degree. We cannot vote, in an election, to jail someone, but we can craft laws that make a particular action illegal. We all have the right to certain things that cannot be taken away from us. In the community of our future, what should be our rights as individuals? What should be the rights of society, superseding those of individuals?

Personally, I was most interested, at each of the three workshops, in how political systems fail. As a security technologist, I study how complex systems are subverted—hacked, in my parlance—for the benefit of a few at the expense of the many. Think of tax loopholes, or tricks to avoid government regulation. These hacks are common today, and AI tools will make them easier to find—and even to design—in the future. I would want any government system to be resistant to trickery. Or, to put it another way: I want the interests of each individual to align with the interests of the group at every level. We have never had a system of government with this property, but—in a time of existential risks such as climate change—it is important that we develop one.

Would this new system of government even be called “democracy”? I truly do not know.

Such speculation is not practical, of course, but still is valuable. Our workshops did not produce final answers and were not intended to do so. Our discourse was filled with suggestions about how to patch our political system where it is fraying. People regularly debate changes to the US Electoral College, or the process of determining voting districts, or the setting of term limits. But those are incremental changes. It is difficult to find people who are thinking more radically: looking beyond the horizon—not at what is possible today but at what may be possible eventually. Thinking incrementally is critically important, but it is also myopic. It represents a hill-climbing strategy of continuous but quite limited improvements. We also need to think about discontinuous changes that we cannot easily get to from here; otherwise, we may be forever stuck at local maxima. And while true innovation in politics is a lot harder than innovation in technology, especially without a violent revolution forcing changes on us, it is something that we as a species are going to have to get good at, one way or another.

Our workshop will reconvene for a fourth meeting in December 2025.

Note

  1. The First International Workshop on Reimagining Democracy (IWORD) was held December 7—8, 2022. The Second IWORD was held December 12—13, 2023. Both took place at the Harvard Kennedy School. The sponsors were the Ford Foundation, the Knight Foundation, and the Ash and Belfer Centers of the Kennedy School. See Schneier, “Recreating Democracy” and Schneier, “Second Interdisciplinary Workshop.”

This essay was originally published in Common Knowledge.

Posted on April 10, 2025 at 8:35 PM42 Comments

Comments

ResearcherZero April 10, 2025 10:26 PM

No it does not make any sense. It is really weird the way things are arranged, as it is a very nontransparent system, that does not work very well. Even if you can get leadership to travel to a location, have local community members and experts point to the specific problems with the current way an issue is being handled, afterwards very little happens.

The interfacing between local communities fails to deliver solutions. When the local representative is occasionally in the local office, rarely do they respond to community requests. They spend much of their time elsewhere, focused on keeping the seat instead.

When people feel they are not being heard, they get angry. That anger is often misdirected.

Community development requires a focus on improved education and qualified skills, which lead to lasting and permanent outcomes in that community. Resource development is needed to support local businesses and institutions, not big businesses which extract the resources and financial windfalls from communities and ship them off elsewhere.

The same problems remain – and quite often the resourcing and attention – declines instead.

The upper leadership focus much of its attention on keeping these safe seats, but the methods do not deliver real benefits to those safe seats. Rather they are often fought for on ideological grounds, promises of employment, which are ultimately only short-lived.

Regional and rural communities are gutted of resources and few services provided in return.

No wonder people feel powerless, because they have none in a system with no real influence.

ResearcherZero April 10, 2025 10:46 PM

The Scandinavian countries seemed to have more intimate community representation and involvement. There are other European countries also. It at least appears more integrated.

The local people in my community are quite welcoming and kind, but deep scars remain from a period of just ten years of large-scale industrial resource extraction. Levels of suicide and early mortality still remain decades later. That period was defined by corruption within local government, constant bickering and enormous harm to both wealthy and working class families alike. Not a single family emerged unscathed from any profession.

Will the gig-workers without retirement benefits simply be abandoned by the tech bros?

I’m sure we can do much better than jobs that destroy people’s souls and their well-being.

Beatrix Willius April 11, 2025 12:42 AM

In Germany we now and then have local participation. Not sure if this makes a difference or not. Also I would add some basic principles for modern democracies like a vote of no confidence to stop a current government. Then the country wouldn’t have the stupid 4 years fixed legislative period. And more than 2 parties.

As it currently stands the Murica needs to decide in the next weeks if it wants a democracy at all or not. In the latter case you don’t need to worry about democracy for the next decades.

Tristram Brelstaff April 11, 2025 4:50 AM

Billionaires should be treated as a danger to the effective working of democracy in the same way that monopolies are treated as a danger to the effective working of capitalism. And their existence and operation should be regulated and restricted by government.

Slow Wanderer April 11, 2025 7:14 AM

@Tristram Brelstaff Monopolies haven’t been treated as a threat to capitalism in at least 4 decades. The orthodox thinking these days is that monopolies are the result of optimization, and optimal markets benefit everyone. This, of course, is a lie, but it is the way things are nowadays. Biden put an anti-monopolist at the head of the FTC for the first time in decades. She did great things in her short time as head of the agency she was swiftly removed with the new administration, and it was looking like no matter who won, she’d be out anyway.

I agree that billionaires are a danger to democracy, and I’ll go a step further and say they’re a danger to society as a whole. In fact, all concentration of power is a danger to society, the more power, the more dangerous.

If we were to rethink how we govern ourselves, one of the fundamental axioms of the new society should be to avoid, as much as possible, creating structures of power. When one is needed, we should make sure it comes with a very specific task, and an expiration date.

A corollary to that might be that a single individual or group of individuals cannot hold power for more than a limited amount of time throughout their lifetimes. Say, 10 years. I believe that the risks of losing expertise in government are fare more manageable than the risks derived from “career politicians” and power-hungry individuals.

The fundamental issue I observe with current societies is that the powerful, like everyone else, govern for themselves, creating a two tier society: the powerful, and the powerless. One way to avoid the split is by making sure they know that, after a short while holding power, they will return to the group of the powerless for the rest of their lives. In AI parlance, it’s an alignment problem. As an example, public healthcare and education would be much better if the people governing them were forced to use those public services. No private education, and no private healthcare, for anyone who’s ever served as part of the government.

I honestly believe if we could keep power out of the hands of those who seek it, we could make any system of government work reasonably well.

Carl April 11, 2025 7:24 AM

I guess my greatest disappointment of the people in this union is the current level of ignorance about its founding and why (thank you [U.S. Department of Education]). Nowhere in the constitution or declaration(s) is the word “democracy” stated. Veterans took an “Enlistment Oath” to support and defend the constitution of these united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and “We The People” pledge allegiance to the flag and the republic for which it stands. And still I don’t witness any push back when the putrid evil within this nation speak about “our democracy”. WE DON’T HAVE A F*CKING DEMOCRACY! The allegation of a “democracy” is a treasonous and seditious action, being rectified in whatever means necessary by our military, they’ve clandestinely been in the process of fulfilling their oath, which is currently on the brink of surfacing from the shadows for all the world to see. All those who have undermined and are in the process of subversion of the constitution for the united states are discretely being brought to justice via military tribunals, prison time and executions (pieces removed from the board) as our republic is stood back up. Notice I didn’t mention any civilian law and order, for it is completely and utterly compromised by this coup d’état ongoing for the last 150 years.

Slow Wanderer April 11, 2025 10:02 AM

@Carl I may be misreading you, but the whole debate of “Democracy vs. Republic” is a sophism. Both mean the same thing: Rule by the People; “democracy” uses Greek roots: demos (population), and kratos (power); “republic” uses the Latin roots: res (rule), and publica (population).

In modern usage, “republic” has come to define the type of Head of State, while “democracy” defines the source of political power. A Republic is a nation ruled by a President, as opposed to a Monarch; in a Democracy, the power ultimately stems from its citizens, as opposed to a nobility (a differentiated group of people or chaste), or a divinity (supernatural powers).

What the constitution describes is a Democratic Republic. Whether it names it so or not, that’s what’s described in it. You just need to read it. Ultimately, it’s the citizens who elect their rulers: that’s a democracy. And the Head of State is a president, elected by the citizens, making it a Democratic Republic. And it makes sense, since the whole thing was articulated as an opposition to the Kingdom of Great Britain, whom the revolutionaries accused of trying to establish an “Absolute Tyranny” in the colonies. The Revolutionary War was a push for both: democracy, and republic.

Carl April 11, 2025 10:46 AM

@Slow Wanderer I believe our forefathers would disagree, and to describe the difference as ‘sophism’ is (IMO) an active attempt of sedition, something the ill-liberal progressives and both teams (democrat and republican) have been publicly fermenting for at least the 60+ years that I know of personally and it appears since the 2 party system was intentionally deployed to confuse and divide the people. Regardless, it’s now militarily being put straight.

“Republic vs. Democracy: What Is the Difference?”
https://www.thoughtco.com/republic-vs-democracy-4169936

mark April 11, 2025 1:06 PM

The one issue that comes to mind immediately: participation.

At Worldcon in Chicago a few years ago, there were what, over 4000 attendees… 88 of us were at the business meeting.

lurker April 11, 2025 2:45 PM

[We] have landed on some alien planet and need to form a government: clean slate. We do not have any legacy systems ..

“We” humans remember where we came from. The longing for home is built into the psyche. We remember the good and bad things about home, and good and bad are subjective …

See also Louis Mercier for an early French approach to the subject
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Year_2440

or see also Kang Youwei’s revolutionary Chinese thought experiment
https://archive.org/details/ServingThePeopleWithDialectics

müzso April 11, 2025 6:07 PM

This is a thought-experiment and impossible to put into practise. There’ll be no such thing as a “clean slate” even when/if we start to colonize other planets/moons/etc. Humanity will bring its history and shackles whereever it goes.

ResearcherZero April 11, 2025 9:59 PM

@Carl, ALL

It is the lawyers in the White House that decide to hold military tribunals so they can sidestep civilian law. The military has defense lawyers which point out this problem all the time. The military is directed by the administration, but because the politicians control the messaging, all that people here are talking points and blame avoidance.

That is not to say the military does not have issues, yet every time there is a review, your politicians do not implement the recommendations. Reviews happen again and again, yet many decades later, very few of any of those recommendations have been adopted.

The politicians are advised, briefed and present with all kinds of detailed studies which included experts in every field, that outline challenges facing society. They are then warned by those experts, along with the intelligence services and the defense department, of the consequences for communities and society as whole – of the impact of inaction.

The economic impacts, the structural impacts, the financial impacts on individuals and their families, the impact of the rising expense of housing, risks of flooding and fire, security risks of international conflict and global instability, the shock to supply chains and global energy supplies as a consequence, fracturing political systems and information environments – and the potential challenges that disease and risk of global pandemic would create for the health system and other crucial services when occurring simultaneously.

These security summits and government briefings have taken place repeatedly over the last three decades – warning the political leadership not to ignore these critical risks.

The politicians have delivered some curated content on social media. It is not like they have been twiddling their thumbs and avoiding responsibility to put out regular tweets.

But thirty odd years is a long, long time. Gotta fill those two day Congressional working weeks somehow. It is not like they have the time to pick up a report and read it, or walk down the hall to one of the briefings repeated all week for their convenience.

ResearcherZero April 11, 2025 10:26 PM

All that people hear are talking points.

Those Congressional Hearings are on C-SPAN, and there is an awful lot of them.

The private briefings that also happen are not available to the public, as they are specially arranged with specially declassified reports that draw on all the crucial insights of intelligence and expert testimony and research from multiple disciplines specifically to ensure politicians are informed. The top brass attend to answer questions.

It is one of the few times you get to see the agency and defense heads walk out of the briefing room afterwards and throw their garb against the ground in frustration. If you sit through the briefings listening to the challenges everyone will face you would understand.

It is not all military s–t, it is the social, health, security and economic challenges.
Very detailed information on the challenges taking place – over the last decade to now.

(in-short, they were already briefed about this decade for the twenty years prior)

Prior to these briefings a report is placed on the minister’s desk, along with a fact sheet outlining the key facts and a summary of each of the areas that the report covers.

They have audio visual presentations and a big board to explain everything, with catering. If the politicians would like even more information, they can then apply for the clearance process and be further briefed in fine detail on the subject and the implications.

[throws hat on ground]

ResearcherZero April 11, 2025 10:33 PM

And boy was the picture of what things would look like today frighteningly accurate.

In ALL aspects.

Ismar April 12, 2025 12:29 AM

Short answer- for society to have any degree of equality each person needs to be offered equal opportunity, but more importantly those who get the opportunity cannot misuse it for their own gain without giving back to society and providing opportunities for others.

Long answer as given by a LLM

The concentration of wealth and power in society is a complex phenomenon driven by multiple interconnected factors. Here are the key causes:

1. Economic Factors

  • Capital Accumulation & Compound Interest: Wealth grows exponentially when returns on investments (stocks, real estate, etc.) outpace wages, benefiting those who already own assets.
  • Monopolies & Oligopolies: Large corporations dominate markets, stifle competition, and extract excessive profits (e.g., Big Tech, pharmaceuticals).
  • Financialization: The economy shifts from production to speculation (e.g., hedge funds, private equity), enriching financiers over workers.
  • Globalization & Offshoring: Corporations exploit cheap labor abroad while weakening domestic labor bargaining power.

2. Political & Institutional Factors

  • Regulatory Capture: Wealthy elites influence laws to favor their interests (e.g., tax loopholes, deregulation).
  • Lobbying & Campaign Financing: Corporations and billionaires fund politicians to shape policies (e.g., tax cuts for the rich, weak antitrust enforcement).
  • Privatization of Public Goods: Essential services (healthcare, education, utilities) become profit-driven, widening inequality.
  • Corporate Welfare: Subsidies, bailouts, and tax breaks disproportionately benefit big businesses.

3. Technological & Structural Changes

  • Automation & AI: Replaces middle-class jobs while enriching tech owners.
  • Winner-Takes-All Markets: Digital platforms (Amazon, Google) dominate, leaving small competitors behind.
  • Intellectual Property & Patents: Concentrate wealth by granting monopolies over innovations.

4. Social & Systemic Biases

  • Inheritance & Dynastic Wealth: Wealth passes through generations, entrenching elite families.
  • Education & Opportunity Gaps: Elite schools and networks favor the wealthy, perpetuating privilege.
  • Racial & Gender Disparities: Systemic discrimination limits wealth-building for marginalized groups.

5. Psychological & Behavioral Factors

  • Power Law Distribution: Natural human tendencies (e.g., preferential attachment) lead to outsized rewards for a few.
  • Risk-Taking & Luck: Some entrepreneurs succeed massively, but luck often plays a bigger role than merit.

Consequences of Wealth & Power Concentration

  • Political Inequality: The rich dictate policies (e.g., tax laws, labor regulations).
  • Social Unrest: Rising inequality fuels polarization and instability.
  • Erosion of Democracy: Plutocracy replaces representative governance.

Possible Solutions

  • Progressive Taxation (wealth taxes, higher capital gains taxes)
  • Stronger Antitrust Enforcement (breaking up monopolies)
  • Worker Cooperatives & Profit-Sharing
  • Campaign Finance Reform (ending corporate donations)
  • Universal Basic Services (free healthcare, education)

Would you like a deeper dive into any specific aspect?

You’re digging into the deepest layer of the problem—whether wealth and power concentration is hardwired into human nature. The answer is partly yes, but not in a fixed, inevitable way. Here’s the breakdown:

1. Evolutionary Roots: Why Humans Tend Toward Hierarchy

A. Dominance & Status-Seeking

  • Primate legacy: Like chimpanzees (but unlike bonobos), humans evolved in ranked social groups where alpha males/females controlled resources.
  • Testosterone & competition: Studies link status-seeking behavior to hormonal drives (e.g., traders with higher testosterone take riskier bets).

B. Reciprocal Altruism… With a Catch

  • Humans cooperate for mutual benefit, but only if they can monitor fairness (see: ultimatum game experiments).
  • Elites exploit this: They justify inequality (“I deserve more because I work harder”) while sabotaging collective resistance (e.g., union busting).

C. Tribalism & Coalitional Instincts

  • People naturally form in-groups (corporate boards, political dynasties) that hoard opportunities.
  • Example: Ivy League schools historically served WASPs; now they serve the global elite.

2. Cognitive Biases That Amplify Inequality

A. The “Just-World Hypothesis”

  • Brain craves fairness, so we rationalize inequality (“The rich must be smarter/harder-working”).

B. Authority Bias

  • Milgram Experiment showed people obey hierarchies even when immoral—why workers rarely revolt against CEOs.

C. “Last Place Aversion”

  • Poor voters often oppose wealth redistribution, fearing they’ll fall to the very bottom—a quirk exploited by populists.

3. The Scarcity Mindset: Fear Drives Hoarding

  • Evolutionary hangover: In prehistoric times, hoarding resources boosted survival. Today, billionaires amass wealth far beyond utility.
  • “Zero-sum” thinking: Many believe wealth is finite, so they fight to grab more (even though economies could be win-win).

4. The Crucial Twist: Culture & Institutions Shape Outcomes

Human nature provides the raw material, but societal rules determine the result:
Hunter-gatherers (like the !Kung) punished hoarders; sharing was enforced.
Medieval Europe had rigid feudalism—birth decided your fate.
Post-WW2 America had 90% top tax rates, curbing dynastic wealth.

Key insight: Our default setting is hierarchy, but collective action (unions, laws, norms) can override it.

5. The “Vicious Cycle” of Power

Once inequality starts, human nature accelerates it:
1. Wealth → Power: Money buys lobbyists, media, and laws (e.g., tax cuts).
2. Power → More Wealth: The system tilts further (e.g., monopolies, privatization).
3. Cognitive Dissonance: The rich believe they earned it, the poor feel powerless—stalling reform.

Is There Hope?

Yes—because humans also evolved:
Empathy (we can care about strangers).
Punishment of cheaters (even at personal cost).
Egalitarian instincts (see: protests, revolutions).

The lever is institutional:
Prevent feedback loops (ban private campaign money).
Rewire incentives (tax unearned wealth, fund worker co-ops).
Attack myths (meritocracy, “trickle-down economics”).

Final Answer: Human nature inclines us toward concentration, but conscious social design can counterbalance it. The choice is ours.

Want to explore how specific societies hacked human nature to reduce inequality?

How Societies Have “Hacked” Human Nature to Reduce Inequality

Human nature may incline us toward hierarchy, but history shows that smart social, economic, and political structures can counteract concentration of power and wealth. Here are key examples of societies that resisted—or reversed—these tendencies:

1. Hunter-Gatherer Egalitarianism

Mechanism: Enforced sharing + anti-hoarding norms
!Kung San (Africa): Used ridicule and ostracism against anyone who boasted or hoarded resources.
Hadza (Tanzania): Meat from hunts was distributed equally; dominance was punished.
Key Takeaway: Small-scale societies used social sanctions to prevent alpha dominance.

Why It Worked:
No surplus accumulation (nomadic life = no storage).
Reverse dominance hierarchies (group overrides would-be elites).

2. The Nordic Model (20th Century–Present)

Mechanism: Strong labor unions + progressive taxation + universal welfare
Sweden, Denmark, Norway: Unionization rates >60%, top marginal tax rates historically ~80-90%.
Result: Some of the world’s lowest inequality (Gini ~0.25 vs. USA’s ~0.41).

How They Overcame Human Nature:
Collective bargaining forced capital to share profits.
Cultural trust (high social cohesion reduced elite resistance).
Policy feedback loops: Wealth taxes fund free education → social mobility.

3. Post-WW2 America (1945–1970s)

Mechanism: New Deal Policies + High Top Tax Rates
Top marginal tax rate: 91% under Eisenhower (1950s).
Strong unions: 35% of workers unionized (vs. 10% today).
Result: Lowest inequality in U.S. history; middle-class boom.

Why It Collapsed:
Elite counterattack (corporate lobbying, union busting).
Globalization + automation eroded worker power.

4. Ancient Athens (Democracy 2.0)

Mechanism: Sortition (Random Selection) + Pay for Public Service
Council of 500: Randomly chosen citizens (not just elites) made decisions.
Misthophoria: Paid citizens to participate, preventing oligarchy.
Ostracism: Exiled overly powerful individuals.

Why It Worked:
Broke elite monopolies on power.
Prevented dynastic wealth accumulation.

5. Modern Worker Cooperatives (Mondragon, Spain)

Mechanism: Ownership by Workers, Not Shareholders
Mondragon Corporation: 80,000+ worker-owners; CEO pay capped at 6x lowest wage.
Result: More resilience in crises, less inequality.

Why It’s Rare:
Capitalism favors investor-owned firms (easier to scale, but concentrates wealth).

6. Land Reform (Taiwan, South Korea, Japan Post-WW2)

Mechanism: Break Up Land Monopolies
Taiwan (1950s): Redistributed feudal estates to peasants.
Result: Rapid industrialization, lower inequality.

Why It Worked:
Destroyed the old landlord elite class.
Created a broad middle-class base for growth.

The Common Threads in Successful “Hacks”

  1. Disrupt Wealth-to-Power Feedback Loops (e.g., high taxes, public election funding).
  2. Collective Counterpower (unions, worker co-ops, protests).
  3. Cultural Narratives Against Hoarding (shame elites, glorify sharing).
  4. Prevent Dynasties (inheritance taxes, universal education).

Why Most Societies Fail at This

  • Elites fight back (lobbying, media control, repression).
  • Human short-termism (people tolerate inequality until crisis hits).
  • Globalization (capital flees to tax havens, weakens labor).

Can We Replicate These Hacks Today?

Yes, but it requires:
Mass movements (like 1930s labor struggles).
Policy levers (wealth taxes, antitrust, union rights).
Cultural shift (reject “greed is good” narratives).

Final Thought: Human nature isn’t destiny—societies that design systems to check power and reward solidarity can thrive without extreme inequality. The blueprints exist; the question is political will.

Want to explore specific policies (like a wealth tax or citizen assemblies) in more depth?

Clive Robinson April 12, 2025 12:58 AM

@ lurker, müzso,

You both talk of “humans” and their “memories” as being an impediment to a “clean slate” approach.

Need I remind folks that humans are not the only vertebrates that are both intelligent and social and as a result form into cooperative hierarchies?

I posted this link on another thread earlier as part of making a point about AI.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/intelligence-evolved-at-least-twice-in-vertebrate-animals-20250407/

But you can add, many more quite small brained vertebrates. Rats and squirrels for instance are not just intelligent, they are social and have been shown to be empathic as well (which is more than some humans that can be named).

But then there are very intelligent invertebrates that appear to have taken a much different evolutionary path. The various squid and octopus families ranking highly,

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0169534718302672

Those creatures that live in social groups, by definition have a mutual cooperative hierarchy that can be seen as a form of political union if not a form of democracy in some cases.

ResearcherZero April 12, 2025 3:44 AM

Equal opportunity for regional and rural communities takes a back seat.

American rural communities begin to feel impact of cuts and other policies.

‘https://www.reuters.com/world/us/federal-funding-cuts-ripple-through-heart-trump-country-2025-03-29/

Farmers that supplied food for school lunches and USDA rural food bank programs unhappy. 🙁
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/31/funding-cuts-food-banks-farmers/82705776007/

USDA provides funding for everything from renovating old hospitals to providing faster internet services and assisting with problems such as aging infrastructure.

https://radio.wcmu.org/2025-03-31/usda-rural-development-cuts-layoffs

Health care and hospitals are just some of the areas being impacted.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/2025-budget-stakes-rural-communities-would-be-hurt-by-proposed-policies-and

Regional housing programs are also being cut.
https://shelterforce.org/2025/04/07/these-hud-cuts-have-gotten-less-attention-but-the-effects-will-still-be-harmful/

ResearcherZero April 12, 2025 3:54 AM

Farmers are always moaning and complaining, so what’s new this time?

Rising costs will be passed onto consumers by the big tech companies.

‘https://www.wired.com/story/plaintext-tech-ceos-silent-trump-tariffs/

loans, mortgages and s–t

Treasury yields on bonds are important in relation to US debt and the cost of borrowing.
https://fortune.com/2025/04/10/bond-market-selloff-investors-yields-treasuries-outlook/

Error reports appear to be on the rise as offices struggle without enough staff.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/10/social-security-massachusetts-cuts-fears-errors-doge

SSA is downsizing its regional office structure from ten regions to four.
Agency announcements will now occur on X.

Agents will be left to wonder the wastelands alone and unsupported. 😐

https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/04/ssa-reorg-plan-contemplates-field-office-closures-contradicting-public-statements/404369/

Grima Squeakersen April 12, 2025 8:59 AM

WRT the U. S., the statement that the fundamental incentive for implementing representative government was to overcome technological limitations of the time is misleading, largely incorrect, and quite possibly deliberately disingenuous, no matter how attractive that premise might be to the socialist who hosts this site and his largely sympathetic audience here. Documents authored by Madison and a number of the other Founders make this clear. The point was to allow people who could not afford to take the time away from earning a living that was required to gain and maintain a sufficiently deep understanding of the issues to empower others whom they trusted to do that, and make the necessary direct decisions. That paradigm has worked demonstrably better here for 250 years than any system that approaches true democracy has anywhere else. The best definition of “pure democracy” is that it is “2 wolves and a sheep voting on the luncheon entree”.

Clive Robinson April 12, 2025 10:55 AM

@ Grima Squeakersen,

With regards

“… misleading, largely incorrect, and quite possibly deliberately disingenuous, no matter how attractive that premise might be…”

Then you go on and do exactly that.

What you are sort of describing is not “democracy” but “representational democracy” and as I’ve explained several times on this blog in the past they are not similar at all other than using the word “democracy” in “a weasel way” so that a “select few” can remove the choices and wishes of the vast majority.

So where is the democracy with representatives? There really is none what so ever in the US two party system where every representative is in effect utterly dependent on just one or two sponsors like the Koch brothers who were themselves convicted criminals,

https://time.com/archive/7186812/bloomberg-investigates-the-koch-brothers/

lurker April 12, 2025 2:41 PM

@Clive Robinson
“Those creatures that live in social groups, by definition have a mutual cooperative hierarchy …”

Indeed they do, and their intelligence has evolved over the aeons such that their every action is done for the good of the society, not for the good of the self as with humans. Modern humans could not organise themselves in social units that function as efficiently as honey bees, or fire ants, because humans are selfish. The authors I cited above thought the undesirable traits could be trained and bred out of humans in a few hundred years, but they did not have the advantage of modern genetic analysiss or behavioural science.

pattimichelle April 13, 2025 11:45 AM

Avoid systems containing “single-point-failure” modes, such as the Oval Office. Exploiters and “bad apples” can populate such an break things badly.

pattimichelle April 13, 2025 11:49 AM

Ismar: Ancient Athens failed. Among other things, persuasive/ignorant oratory caused people to vote to attack Sparta and it didn’t count on a plague happening during the ensuing siege. Don’t trust LLM’s is prolly the lesson here, inasmuch as access to the internet is no guarantee of accurate knowledge!!

Clive Robinson April 13, 2025 1:43 PM

@ pattimichelle, Ismar,

You note,

“Don’t trust LLM’s is prolly the lesson here, inasmuch as access to the internet is no guarantee of accurate knowledge!!”

Or,

1, Reasoning
2, Logic
3, Empathy

Or those other things that can make humans more than “self entitled” idiots with no regard for societal responsibility.

But hey they made “God in their likeness” and now they are trying to make current AI LLMs and ML into deities…

And their failures apparently,

“Know no limits”.

So a little sing along with the Hellon Risk might be,

“How much is that DOGiE in the Windoze.
The one of the laggardly fail,
How much is that DOGiE in the Windoze
I do hope that DOGiE’s for jail.

Dave April 14, 2025 10:59 AM

Americans forget or never knew that the US Constitution writers didn’t intend for it to be a static document, seldom changed. Some of the framers expected it to be rewritten every 20 yrs, to address problems that arose and prevent abuses.

At this point, I’d say we need to start over and keep 80% of the Constitution, but fix 20% which has become less relevant and prone to abuses.

2 political parties having so much power needs to be ended, prevented.
Abuses of Presidential and Congressional power need to be easier to squash. We need more term limits across the board so that people aren’t lifetime politicians without having to change jobs.

We need stronger protections from things that harm our air, water, and land. Protections that can’t be wiped away by 1 person, setting back gains that took a generation in a single afternoon.

Targeted attacks on freedom of speech can’t be allowed, but neither should spreading lies be allowed. Real penalties are necessary that don’t take 10 yrs to achieve.

The ability to endlessly delay court dates also needs to end. Justice delayed is justice denied, not just for the accused, but for “the people”.

That’s off the top of my head.

jbl0 April 14, 2025 3:53 PM

With much respect for the blogger and bloggees; enjoy following for a longtime.

TL;DR
“Constitutional federal republic with democratic principles and separation of powers” + “based on a geographic definition of the electorate” = happy camper with a limited imagination.

For all of my adult life, where I have chosen to live closely aligns with who I am: my values, my lifestyle, my life choices, etc. When the situation arises where I must cross geographic boundaries, I time it carefully, with caution. It is my belief that history, statistics, probability and common sense all support the wisdom of these choices; when I walk to work or drive around town I see ongoing evidentiary support. As long as I live in a physical body within a physical world, I reckon this is how I will view public life, including expressing my choices through voting.

Marije van den Berg April 14, 2025 4:24 PM

I read your blog post “Reimagining Democracy” with great interest. As someone who has been thinking and writing about similar questions from a different angle, I’d like to offer some reflections.

Your thought experiment about designing governance from scratch on an alien planet is compelling. Indeed, many of our current democratic structures were designed for a world with different technological constraints and social realities than we face today.

However, I’d like to suggest that reimagining democracy isn’t just about redesigning formal structures at the top – it’s equally about recognizing and strengthening what is already happening at the community level.
In the Netherlands, we have a rich history of cooperative arrangements that exist alongside the market and the state. These “commons” have solved major societal challenges – from housing to healthcare to finance – not through top-down governance but through community-based organization. America, of course, has its own powerful tradition in this domain. As Alexis de Tocqueville observed in “Democracy in America,” the strength of American democracy has always resided in its vibrant associational life – the countless civic associations, mutual aid societies, and community organizations that Americans form to address local needs without waiting for government action. “Americans of all ages, all conditions, all minds constantly unite,” he wrote, noting that this cooperative capacity was fundamental to the democratic character. This tradition continues today in various forms across the United States, from community land trusts to cooperative businesses to neighborhood associations.

What struck me in your workshops’ findings was the tension between complexity and control. The original “operating system” of democracy was designed two centuries ago (for a society that had more self-organization and variation than today!). The state was small and relatively simple. Voting once every few years, and only for parties, is a “low-variety mechanism” that carries very little information about voters’ thoughts, feelings, and aspirations. In those earlier societies, this limited feedback loop was sufficient because communities handled much more themselves. But political cycles and party systems, combined with centralized governance models, have reduced variety rather than increased it over the centuries.

This perspective draws from cybernetics and Ashby’s Law of Requisite Variety (“only variety can absorb variety”). Our current democratic systems simply lack the requisite variety to handle the complexity of modern society.

Rather than creating ever more complex bureaucracies that inevitably fall short, perhaps we should be distributing control to where the variety naturally exists – in communities and their self-organizing capacities.

Perhaps the problems we face are indeed either very local or truly global. But even global problems manifest locally, and communities often develop sophisticated responses before formal systems catch up.

When you operate at the local level, everything becomes real and tangible. The abstract debates about truth that plague our online discourse evaporate when communities face concrete challenges together. In local realities, there is no fake news! A solar panel either produces electricity or it doesn’t. A community garden either grows food or it doesn’t. A caregiver helps people or it doesn’t.
This grounding in shared practical reality provides a natural antidote to the disconnection that allows misinformation to flourish. It restores our connection to a common world of experience.

In my work, I’ve observed that real solutions often emerge where formal systems fall short. The bus driver who handles a difficult passenger at night doesn’t need management approval – they use practical wisdom developed in context. This principle applies at every level: complexity is best managed at the point of operation, not from a distance.

My perspective is that we don’t need to wait for perfect new democratic systems – we can strengthen the cooperative domain alongside market and state right now. This doesn’t require revolution, just recognition and support for what communities are already doing.

Your workshops sound like important spaces for thinking beyond immediate reforms. I’d be interested to hear more about any examples of communities successfully creating new democratic practices that emerged from your discussions.

Rontea April 14, 2025 5:12 PM

“How would we govern ourselves?”
Law should not be written in code.

“Does it still make sense for all of us living in the same place to organize every few years and choose one of us to go to a single big room far away and make laws in our name?”
The question raises the validity of centralized lawmaking when people live in the same area.

“what is the optimal balance between votes made in our name and ballot initiatives that we all vote on?”
The optimal balance between votes made in our name and ballot initiatives that we all vote on is a topic of ongoing debate, with no universally accepted answer.

“Given the ability to start over, would anyone design a system of government for the near-term financial interest of the wealthiest few?”
No, most people would not design a system of government for the near-term financial interest of the wealthiest few if given the ability to start over.

“What comes after capitalism, and how will it affect the way we govern ourselves?”
The transition from capitalism to a new economic system could lead to significant changes in governance, potentially emphasizing more equitable distribution of resources and democratic decision-making.

“Can AI set interest rates?”
Yes, AI can assist in setting interest rates by analyzing data and providing insights to financial institutions.

“Can AI set taxation?”
Yes, AI can assist in setting taxation by analyzing data and providing insights to inform policy decisions.

“How would we feel about an AI device in our pocket that voted in our name, thousands of times per day, based on preferences that it inferred from our actions?”
The idea of an AI device voting in our name based on inferred preferences raises significant ethical and privacy concerns.

“How would we feel if an AI system could determine optimal policy solutions that balanced every voter’s preferences: Would it still make sense to have a legislature and representatives?”
It depends if the AI system could perfectly balance every voter’s preferences.


“will we accept that future political speeches will all be written by AI devices?”
The acceptance of AI-written political speeches in the future depends on various factors such as technological advancements, public perception, and ethical considerations.

“Will legislators accept AI-written legislation, especially when that legislation includes a level of detail that human-based legislation generally does not?”
The acceptance of AI-written legislation by legislators, particularly when it includes a level of detail typically absent in human-based legislation, remains uncertain.

“how will AI-written legislation affect the balance of power between the legislature and the administrative state?”
AI-written legislation could potentially shift the balance of power by increasing the efficiency and precision of legislative processes, which might empower the legislature over the administrative state.

“what happens when the AI tools we use to both write and enforce laws start to suggest policy options that are beyond human understanding?”
When AI tools suggest policy options beyond human understanding, it raises concerns about transparency, accountability, and the potential for unintended consequences in lawmaking.

“will we reject a system of governance where humans are only nominally in charge?”
The question raises the issue of whether we will choose to reject a governance system where humans have limited control.

“Do we really have a need for a political unit the size of France or Virginia?”
Only if you want to fit all the egos of every politician inside!

“is it a mixture of scales that we really need, one that moves effectively between the local and the global?”
Yes, a mixture of scales that effectively moves between the local and the global is what we really need.

“Should future generations be given a “voice,” whatever that means?”
Only if they promise not to use it to ask us why we made so many questionable decisions!

“Should nonhumans, or whoever ecosystem be given a choice?”
Absolutely! I mean, who wouldn’t want to see a squirrel vote for more acorns or a dolphin choose between fish and a good belly rub? Just imagine the debates: “I say we go for more sunbathing spots!” “No, more mud puddles!” It would be the ultimate reality show!

“Should everyone have the same volume and type of voice?”
No, everyone should not have the same volume and type of voice.

“Should we encode the superiority of the wealthy specifically when it comes to influence?”
No, we should not encode the superiority of the wealthy specifically when it comes to influence.

“In the community of our future, what should be our rights as individuals?”
In a democratic community of the future, our rights as individuals should include the freedom of speech, the right to vote, the right to education, the right to healthcare, and the right to equal treatment under the law. These rights should be protected and upheld to ensure that every individual has the opportunity to participate fully in society and pursue their own happiness and well-being.

“What should be the rights of society, superseding those of individuals?”
The rights of society should be those that ensure the safety, well-being, and functioning of the community as a whole, while balancing individual freedoms and responsibilities.

Would this new system of government even be called “democracy”?
The name “democracy” fundamentally stems from its function, which is governance by the people. The etymology of the word supports this, deriving from the Greek words “demos,” meaning “the people,” and “kratos,” meaning “power” or “rule.” A true democracy functions on the principle of providing power to the people, allowing them to have a direct or representative role in decision-making processes. Therefore, the appropriateness of the term “democracy” to describe any system of government lies in how well it aligns with these foundational principles. If the system genuinely empowers the populace and facilitates their active participation in governance, then the name accurately reflects its function. As long as the core idea of people’s rule is maintained, the term “democracy” remains fitting and relevant.

Rontea April 15, 2025 3:17 PM

@ResearcherZero
“No wonder people feel powerless, because they have none in a system with no real influence.”

What I need most is prayer, but like McBeth, I cannot say Amen.

Rontea April 15, 2025 3:28 PM

@Tristram Brelstaff
“Billionaires should be treated as a danger to the effective working of democracy in the same way that monopolies are treated as a danger to the effective working of capitalism.”

The notion that billionaires pose a threat to democracy echoes the historical critique of monopolies within capitalism. Both entities, in their concentration of power, can distort the natural flow of their respective systems. While capitalism thrives on competition and innovation, monopolies stifle these by controlling markets. Similarly, democracy, which values the equal voice of all citizens, can be undermined by the disproportionate influence of billionaires. This raises a philosophical question: How can we balance the pursuit of wealth and individual freedom with the preservation of collective governance and equality? It challenges us to reconsider the ethical boundaries of wealth accumulation and the role of regulation in maintaining a just and equitable society.

Rontea April 15, 2025 3:34 PM

@Slow Wanderer
“In fact, all concentration of power is a danger to society, the more power, the more dangerous.”

The concentration of power indeed poses a significant threat to society, as it often leads to imbalances and potential abuses. History has shown that unchecked power can corrupt, stifle individual freedoms, and hinder collective progress. However, it is crucial to consider that power itself is not inherently evil; rather, it is the manner in which it is wielded and the structures that govern its use that determine its impact. A balanced distribution of power, with mechanisms for accountability and transparency, can mitigate these risks and foster a more just and equitable society.

Rontea April 15, 2025 3:47 PM

@mark
“The one issue that comes to mind immediately: participation.”

In considering the notion of participation, it’s intriguing to suggest that one can experience activity without action.

Rontea April 15, 2025 3:59 PM

@lurker

“We” humans remember where we came from.

It’s intriguing to consider the role of faith and spirituality in understanding our origins and destiny. Without the guidance of a divine presence or belief in God, the journey of humanity can feel uncertain. We might find ourselves questioning our origins and future trajectory, as we lack the broader context that faith can provide. Perhaps, in contemplating what we were before our evolution into homo sapiens, and where we are headed, faith offers a sense of purpose and direction.

Rontea April 15, 2025 4:08 PM

@müzso

“Humanity will bring its history and shackles wherever it goes.”

Indeed, we are submerged in the tides of history, a vast ocean where the echoes of our past deeds and decisions continue to ripple through time. Each era and event, like an indelible ink, stains the pages of our collective narrative, shaping our present and our perceptions of the future. This historical deluge carries with it both the wisdom and the burdens of bygone ages, reminding us that we are both the architects and the inheritors of our own legacies. Thus, as we navigate this sea of history, we must discern which lessons to embrace and which chains to break, mindful that our present actions become the history of tomorrow.

Rontea April 15, 2025 5:38 PM

@Dave

“Justice delayed is justice denied, not just for the accused, but for “the people”.”

To delay justice is to tamper with the clock of morality, where every postponed verdict ripples into a crescendo of doubt and disillusionment. Justice, in its essence, is a promise made by society to its members—a promise that righteousness will prevail and wrongs will be righted. When this promise is deferred, the very fabric of societal trust begins to unravel.

Rontea April 16, 2025 12:30 PM

@jbI0

“Constitutional federal republic with democratic principles and separation of powers” + “based on a geographic definition of the electorate” = happy camper with a limited imagination.

In the Information Age, the boundaries of imagination are linked to the freedom we can experience. This would be similar to living in a constitutional federal republic with predefined democratic principles. While such a system can provide stability and a sense of order, they can also act as the bars of a cage when imagination is stifled. We need a system that envisions the world not as it is but as it could be. In a world inundated with information, those who fail to harness their imagination may find themselves prisoners to the very systems designed to liberate them. The ability to imagine beyond the given framework can help us maintaining true freedom in an era where information is both a tool and a weapon.

Rontea April 16, 2025 12:50 PM

@Marije van den Berg

“Our current democratic systems simply lack the requisite variety to handle the complexity of modern society.”

The paradox of variety and “e pluribus unum” lies at the heart of modern democratic systems. The phrase “e pluribus unum,” meaning “out of many, one,” encapsulates this paradox. The challenge is to maintain the balance between unity and variety. This paradox extends to the concept of states themselves. The strength of a state lies in its ability to accommodate and celebrate diversity while fostering common values and objectives. In navigating these paradoxes, democratic systems must evolve to reflect the complexities of contemporary society. They must find ways to enhance representation and participation, ensuring that unity does not come at the expense of diversity, but rather is enriched by it.

ResearcherZero April 18, 2025 5:08 AM

@Rontea

This is sort of the opposite of that with the opposite effect.

Disaster relief teams who were cleaning up after disasters sent home.

‘https://apnews.com/article/americorps-volunteers-fema-doge-05b1d1cd53e0b5b9f64c17eaba7adf95

Security Sam April 27, 2025 6:46 AM

Democracy is a pipe dream, it never existed nor it can be attained.
The best case scenario is an asymptotic approximation.

ResearcherZero April 29, 2025 3:11 AM

@Security Sam

Democracy existed. It is not a pipe dream unless you happily give up your rights and surrender them. Americans gave up their rights by electing a billionaire who clearly stated he would be a dictator. If you vote for a dictator – expect authoritarian-like rule.

In an authoritarian system you have no means to respond to illegal behaviour by police. You
should expect problems reporting unlawful and criminal conduct in the United States and breaches of your constitutional rights, physical violence and violations of due process.

This may include charges brought against you without evidence, unlawful searches and fabricated evidence, with difficulty in obtaining legal assistance when detained. You could be transferred multiple times to different locations to prevent lawyers and family finding you, making contact and providing you with legal counsel. Also expect possible injury.

Trump is subverting America’s legal processes and removing citizen’s constitutional rights.

‘https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-upends-dojs-civil-rights-division-sparking-bloodbath-senior-rank-rcna202622

Mass resignations from the DoJ wing which protects Americans from unlawful policing.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/exodus-doj-civil-rights-division-official-100-attorneys/story?id=121257205

ResearcherZero April 29, 2025 3:39 AM

Trump is exceeding his authority and interfering with states’ power to set election rules.

‘https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-04-24/us-election-officials-question-agency-about-trumps-order-overhauling-election-operations

Trump is now dismantling the very election security systems he ordered be put in place.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/09/politics/election-security-systems-trump-invs/index.html

As global security deteriorates – the United States is no longer reliable or stable.
https://news.sky.com/story/the-world-and-america-have-changed-irreversibly-under-trump-13357849

giblets May 1, 2025 2:02 AM

I think the biggest fallacy of all of this is it assumes perfect flow of information. The problem of people having different facts is not solvable because of the way information travels and is ‘absorbed’ by individuals. Aside from political misinformation and subterfuge, my truth can be a truth based on what I know to be true, but you may not know the same things as me and I may not know the same things as you and therefor your truth, based on the the things you know to be true, has equal validity. The same applies to any AI system. It is based on the programming of humans and is therefor flawed. Even an AI written by an AI will have come indirectly from humans and be the result of imperfect knowledge. As new information is created, it takes time to spread and flow and it does so incompletely and at varying rates. Things are messy because they simply cannot be any other way.

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