Bruce Schneier | |||||||||||
Schneier on SecurityA blog covering security and security technology. « Denial-of-Service Attack Against Facebook | Main | Experimental Results: Liars and Outliers Trust Offer » January 10, 2013The Politics and Philosophy of National SecurityThis essay explains why we're all living in failed Hobbesian states: What do these three implications -- states have a great deal of freedom to determine what threatens a people and how to respond to those threats, and in making those determinations, they are influenced by the interests and ideologies of their primary constituencies; states have strong incentives and have been given strong justifications for exaggerating threats; and while states aspire, rhetorically, to a unity of will and judgment, they seldom achieve it in practice -- tell us about the relationship between security and freedom? What light do they shed on the question of why security is such a potent argument for the suppression of rights and liberties? Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:49 AM • 16 Comments To receive these entries once a month by e-mail, sign up for the Crypto-Gram Newsletter. Scott • January 10, 2013 7:59 AM "Security is an ideal language for suppressing rights..." I think that just about says it all. The Constitution has been raped and pillaged ad nausuem for 12 years, all under the guise of keeping the country secure. In reality, we are no more secure today than we were on September 11. It's smoke, mirrors, theater and the millions of sheeples that make up America are being willingly led to slaughter. Whomever • January 10, 2013 9:39 AM North Korea is a great example of a nation which has gone to the very extreme of focusing everything on war to the very point that they do not have enough food for their people. Decade after decade. Like the US, they are not really at war with anyone. According to their beliefs, they were at war with Japan and they defeated Japan. South Korea invaded them and desolated their land, according to their beliefs, and they were responsible for defeating SK, the US, and other UN nations. It was not they who invaded SK, it was not the Allies who defeated Japan, and it was not the Chinese who pushed back the US, SK, and the UN. It was North Korea who did all of this. Kim Sung-Il. They believe, or have believed they are the envy of the world. The leading nation. North Koreans have no choice but to belief these stories. They are completely kept from the outside world through a wide variety of means. They do not know of anything better, not truth on these key subjects, not a better way of life. The US and other nations have similar delusions. And operate under similar constraints. I think it is all about what they are looking to for their protection. How they believe they can protect themselves. Who will protect them. NK looks to their Leader (it is always some "Leader"), to technology, to the "brilliancy" of "socialism". The US has similar beliefs. God does not have anything to do with it. They interviewed him, and they decided they would go with other options. Gunnar • January 10, 2013 10:29 AM Unless it was Dick Cheney who took over your blog today, I would not worry so much about Hobbes, Kant ships a lot more code. Fredrik • January 10, 2013 12:16 PM I don't entirely agree with the essay; we do need security, but the state misinterprets its own security as the security of its citizens, and in doing so becomes a security threat itself. MingoV • January 10, 2013 4:48 PM We generally think of security as protection from bad actors. Another type of security is protection from communicable diseases. Public health departments were established to protect us from such threats. Unfortunately, it turns out that public health departments are just as likely to misuse their powers as the TSA or DEA. In NYC, for example, all blood glucose results must be reported to the public health department so they ensure that diabetics are being treated. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a stupid guideline that newborns be vaccinated against hepatitis B (a disease transmitted by injection of infectious blood or by frequent sexual contact with a carrier). Almost every state public health department requires these vaccinations even though newborn babies cannot make antibodies. The evidence in the USA is that almost every government agency that provides some type of security gets bigger, less focused, and stupider over time. gregorylent • January 10, 2013 5:41 PM going further .. our entire economy and social structure is based in fear this will change this century as humans realize the creative power of their own consciousness TomTrottier • January 11, 2013 12:49 PM "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." We have more to fear from Wall street than Arabia. John • January 11, 2013 8:33 PM I'm currently a medical student, this guy reminds me a little like the annoying people who think pharmaceutical companies are working secretly with the gov't and how they are the devil, and just outrageous claims and nonsense that actually slows down the progress of modern medicine. hahahahahahaha Bruce, my advice is, although National Security is crucial, and I would never undermine the importance of everything the US does to keep everyone safe, but as far as YOU go, Chill, or Run for President, You are a little "too much" Let Law Enforcement do their job, and you stick to politics. Vles • January 13, 2013 7:46 AM Scrap the word "security" and replace it with "care". Reads much better... vasiliy pupkin • January 14, 2013 7:53 AM @John vasiliy pupkin • January 14, 2013 9:03 AM http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/310314-1 tim • January 14, 2013 10:21 AM @john Ah dude - Schneier's focus is security. Not politics (Schneier would make a very bad politician). And law enforcement falls squarely under that heading. Gentry Marks • January 15, 2013 5:55 PM Haha... I read "Hobbesian state" and assumed that was a Calvin and Hobbes reference. ;) Clive Robinson • January 16, 2013 1:19 AM @ Gentry Marks, Haha... I read "Hobbesian state" and assumed that was a Calvin and Hobbes reference. Joking aside, people do get confused over "Hobbesian", because of the similarity of "Hobbesian choice" and "Hobson's Choice" which mean entirely seperat things, John G • January 18, 2013 5:44 AM There is a lot of wisdom in the article. Basic message: 'security' is not a single agreed thing or value, it is a bundle of concepts that need to be unpacked with the same kind of political and social analysis as concepts more generally agreed to be complicated and political, like justice. And the 'sovereign' that can make us all secure does not exist. Not only have we met the enemy and he is us, but we have met the sovereign, and he too is us. We had better find a way to live with that.
Post a comment
Powered by Movable Type. Photo at top by Geoffrey Stone.
Schneier.com is a personal website. Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of BT. |
|
Comments