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Schneier on SecurityA blog covering security and security technology. « Tracking Automobiles Through their Tires | Main | How to Negate the Security of an Access Token » December 27, 2006The Problem with "Hiring Hackers"The Communications Director for Montana's Congressman Denny Rehberg solicited "hackers" to break into the computer system at Texas Christian University and change his grades (so they would look better when he eventually ran for office, I presume). The hackers posted the email exchange instead. Very funny: First, let's be clear. You are soliciting me to break the law and hack into a computer across state lines. That is a federal offense and multiple felonies. Obviously I can't trust anyone and everyone that mails such a request, you might be an FBI agent, right? Posted on December 27, 2006 at 1:40 PM • 30 Comments To receive these entries once a month by e-mail, sign up for the Crypto-Gram Newsletter. Hiring a hacker is like hiring a stabber to perform surgery -- just because both the surgeon and the stabber knows how to use a knife and cut open flesh.... Posted by: Full Disk Encryption at December 27, 2006 2:15 PM Seriously, they got him to send pictures of squirrels? Delightful. Rot-26? Beautiful. It's almost too bad it had to end. Posted by: Jemaleddin at December 27, 2006 2:37 PM Actually, I believe the Communications Director wanted them to change his own grades, not the grades of the Congressman. Posted by: Evan Wired at December 27, 2006 2:40 PM I think the guy was trying to get his own grades changed, not the grades of the congressman he worked for. After reading the emails though, I'm not surprised the grades were bad. Posted by: Josh O at December 27, 2006 2:42 PM --- BEGIN PSP SIGNED MESSAGE --- Small correction: the story said Shriber was trying to get his own grades changed, not Rehberg's? --- BEGIN PSP SIGNATURE --- Posted by: Baz at December 27, 2006 2:48 PM @ Bruce, Evan, Josh, et al: The request in question was indeed for the change of the aide's own grades, not for Congressman Rehberg. Until the story broke on networkworld.com, we had no idea of (nor interest in) the aide's profession. Posted by: Lyger at December 27, 2006 3:34 PM Dear god, the only thing that was lacking was a reference to rfc3203! http://www.idaemon.ca/rfc3203/ That was just brilliant! Posted by: Tremaine at December 27, 2006 3:46 PM And so life imitates art. There are many lessons in here; I feel that trusting "hackers" might be the least of them. Posted by: Ralph at December 27, 2006 3:49 PM ROT-26 has been used be a wide variety by hackers and crypotologists at some point in their lives. Despite this, we have evidence that it's insecure, and we have a pretty power-point presentation (available for the low price of only 1,000 Zimbabwe Dollars) with all kinds of language on it that you won't psudostafle, so you won't deppinjack the cryptowapple. Use our (TM) ROT-546(TM) in its place! It's been calculated to be 21x as secure as ROT-26, and it is a proven communications method! Visit www.doghouse.IReallyHopeThisDoesNotExist for a pricing guide, and further details! Posted by: Rot at December 27, 2006 4:35 PM This guy was lucky. He could have found some idiot who would have performed the crime instead of taking it as an opportunity for a prank. Posted by: Anonymous Coward at December 27, 2006 4:35 PM I'll bet this sucker thought hackers were just geeky useful idiots before this happened... Posted by: Bluezoo7 at December 27, 2006 5:00 PM This nicely illustrates the definition of hacker: given the opportunity to A) break into a school's database to change grades and B) engage in social engineering to see how far this guy would take things, the hacker opted for the latter, more interesting option. I think we can remove the scare-quotes from "hacker" because clearly lyger is the geniune, inquisitive/creative type. Posted by: Nathan at December 27, 2006 5:19 PM Only Darkside Haxors will be willing to exploit government services for profit. But they dont want to look like tools aswell, so they end up getting themselves in an ego/financial pickle dont they. Posted by: ComCortexUnix at December 27, 2006 5:44 PM The pigeon idea reminded me of the guys who get off trying to sucker the 419 spammers. There are web sites with pages and pages of photos that 419 spammers sent of themselves holding strange objects or ridiculous signs - this business with the squirrels is a direct descendent. Hah! /j Posted by: j at December 27, 2006 5:44 PM I moderate one of the more search-engine friendly "hacker" forums out there, and I get at least one or two private requests per month for hacking services. I've wondered before just how many people like this I may have turned down. Posted by: B-Con at December 28, 2006 4:16 AM SCORE: Hackers:1 Criminal-minded politico seed:0 Number of similar criminal-minded politico seeds to be thwarted: 7,865,322; +3 more per second because politics is the best way to get money and power without adding any value to society. Its like going out into a junkyard and killing mice one at a time with a club. They reproduce faster than you can attrit them. Posted by: bob at December 28, 2006 7:11 AM What I find interesting is that the guy claims to have spent time looking around attrition.org and didn't pick up the shade of the hats. Ok, maybe they're not always gleaming white- but IMO they're not black enough to pull a stunt like that either. Also shows how much of our 'education' comes from Hollywood. Posted by: Rich at December 28, 2006 10:22 AM Maybe in the near future, there would be a new career with service catalog and pricing for what kind of information "hacking" and for what sites. A sites with higher price means higher security protection.... :) Posted by: Richard at December 29, 2006 8:51 AM ROT-26? I use that encryption scheme every day. Very easy to use. Not the strongest of encryptions, for sure, but I never forget the passphrase. However, I hear Vista uses this too. I hope Microsoft hasn't filed for a patent... Posted by: David at December 31, 2006 9:18 AM I would love influencers like you try to not misuse the word hacker, it would be of great help. Posted by: Roberto Galoppini at January 2, 2007 6:45 AM He asked the guys on Attrition? Jesus, he deserves everything he gets. A simple search of the site show they have been doing this stuff for YEARS. This is like some kind of Darwin award... Posted by: Mike at January 2, 2007 8:45 AM @Roberto: They are hackers - in this case they hacked the procedure for hiring computer criminals in order to ridicule the hirer :-) Posted by: Steve at January 2, 2007 9:57 AM Post a comment
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