This is going to be interesting.
It’s a video of someone trying on a variety of printed full-face masks. They won’t fool anyone for long, but will survive casual scrutiny. And they’re cheap and easy to swap.
wiredog • December 10, 2024 8:51 AM
Considering that the (alleged) ceo killer fooled all the face recognition both AI and human with a surgical mask, and only got ID’d because he took it off, once, in a taxi, it seems a surgical mask would be Good Enough.
Now if you could get custom face masks of this type you could arrange for someone else to get ID’d. Generate lots of false positives in the system.
DaveX • December 10, 2024 10:38 AM
In the sales lit, they also mention that they work like headbands or hats, so you could wear it bunched it up for immediate deployment or storage.
Mexaly • December 10, 2024 10:40 AM
We’ll figure out new handshakes.
What’s old is new again.
Trevor • December 10, 2024 10:59 AM
They will also confound automated camera surveillance quite easily. I suspect it won’t be difficult to train a NN to recognize them as a mask but that won’t help identify the person.
Dave • December 10, 2024 12:01 PM
All the world’s a stage.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56966/speech-all-the-worlds-a-stage
ResearcherZero • December 10, 2024 11:46 PM
This does fool people up close.
VS backdoor
‘https://www.sentinelone.com/labs/operation-digital-eye-chinese-apt-compromises-critical-digital-infrastructure-via-visual-studio-code-tunnels/
Microsoft provides a signed tunnel to execute code.
https://medium.com/@truvis.thornton/visual-studio-code-embedded-reverse-shell-and-how-to-block-create-sentinel-detection-and-add-e864ebafaf6d
GregW • December 11, 2024 6:18 AM
Not a silver bullet for countering the surveilance state… haven’t firms willing to sell to law enforcement been working on automated height and weight analysis and gait analysis for years?
That’s right, besides the mask, you also need to wear high heels and a fat suit and put rocks in your shoes… although maybe high heels will be enough of a change you don’t need the rocks to change your gait?
(half joking)
iAPX • December 11, 2024 12:00 PM
I bet there will be “Luigi’s” masks like that will be offered very quickly…
And that’s a security nightmare for those willing to do mass surveillance.
Wytch • December 11, 2024 2:41 PM
As far as gait analysis, Corey Doctorow wrote a book including this (surprising, I know). Little Brother. Rocks in the shoes is a legitimate strategy
Clive Robinson • December 13, 2024 1:51 AM
@ ALL,
We know Bio-Metrics are a busy so why?
The answer is people on mass either believe inately or for other reasons,
“If you’ve nothing to hide…”
History tells us otherwise, but as nearly always if it requires even a tiny amount of effort most will abdicate responsibility, not just for their safety but the safety of their friends and loved ones.
Part of the reason this abdication is not just initially possible is,
“It’s a numbers game, in a target rich environment.”
Hence the implicit,
“It’ll not happen to me as I’m not prominent or noticeable enough.”
Is actually rather idiotic, when the supposed leaders are actually interested in,
“Justice being ‘seen to be done’ rather than ‘actually being done’.”
It’s part of that numpty “strong man” nonsense all to many run to fall inline with rather than use critical thinking. All the numpty has to actually have is a flag to wrap themselves up in and a drum for people to march to the beat of.
Get enough “tin pot / toy soldiers” to march up and down in cheap shirts and all of a sudden people just hand you power, because it’s easier for them to abdicate responsibility. It’s why we have the saying,
“First they came for the…”
Which is the start of a poem that ends in
“Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.”
Written by Pastor Martin Niemöller about a time in history when people abdicated their responsibilities and turned to “strong men” to save them.
Forgetting the fact that those “strong men” were never going to solve the problems they claimed they would, because if they did they would loose the power they craved. So they would create endless excuses or endless “Wars On…” etc.
I mention George Orwell from time to time and that people should read and understand not just “1984” but as importantly “Animal Farm”.
As for “The Great American Dream” how many understand how it can not achieve, and worse the “nightmares hidden within”?
ReUsedOneTimePoster • December 14, 2024 12:19 PM
@Clive
Good to see your ticker still ticking
Though “I am not a …”, I did try to “speak out” here on how busy and varied the bio-metric busy’s are and on the silliness of fighting bio-metric indexing into the haystack (integrated databases) via whock-a-mole obfuscation countermeasures rather than by supporting or requesting legislative protections. In fact, I tried twice… …but my efforts were “less equal than others” or are still waiting in line
Legislators have expressed concern that this busybody busy could marry its customer real-time facial recognition technology with its digital price tag technology to implement dynamic grocery pricing, making grocery prices less equal for some than others:
htt ps://www.thestreet.com/retail/kroger-has-alarming-plans-for-digital-price-tags-lawmakers-say
Another busybody (international) busy that has flirted with integrating real-time bio-and-other-metrics (license plate readers, voiceprints, facial recognition) into its order pipeline is McDonalds.
Hendrik Visage • December 16, 2024 3:43 AM
Asking for a friend: where/how do I source these?
Believe he’ll use it only for legitimate pranking reasons.
Martin • December 18, 2024 3:06 AM
There’s still gait recognition.
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Matthias Urlichs • December 10, 2024 7:20 AM
They don’t survive in-person scrutinity, but video cameras? no contest. Maybe if you zoom directly to the face with HD video.