Clive Robinson March 10, 2023 6:11 PM

@ Bruce, ALL,

“An elephant uses its right-of-way privileges…”

It’s not just elephants that do this.

Anyone been to where any crearure of more than a modicum of cognative ability is either revered or protected in some way?

You see it happening with temples and monkeys.

In a well known European Holiday Destination cats were protected and the feral population effectively replaced rats in the ecology.

Oh and in Holland “cyclists” have some very strong priveledges compared to motorists.

I’ll let a Dutch national tell you the consequences of that 😉

modem phonemes March 10, 2023 6:22 PM

This is clearly another ChatGPT essay, where

ChatGPT = ChatGreatPachydermTrumpeter

ResearcherZero March 11, 2023 3:13 AM

They can probably hear those trucks from miles away with their magic feet and bone structure. So how do you bribe an elephant?

Clive Robinson March 11, 2023 6:42 AM

@ ResearcherZero

Re : Bribes that work…

“So how do you bribe an elephant?”

Easy, but first a short story that @JonKnowsNothing can probably comment on 😉

Some years ago now, I used to communicate with a lady in California who had two apparently unconnected occupations,

1, Owner operator of a horse ranch.
2, Successful software educator.

She however would always point out they were very much alike.

As I realy do not like horses –or many humans for that matter– I used to quip “Is that because they are half mad, untrustworthy, and no one with any sense would let then twixt their legs?”

To make her point though, she used to point out that in her experience both horses and humans were so much alike, because they were easy to bribe with food treats. She would then pause reflectively for a moment before saying “Which is just as well… because it would be so unkind to use a crop on a horse”.

JonKnowsNothing March 11, 2023 10:29 AM

@Clive, All

re: Horses v Humans

I can safely say a horse will sell their freedom for a bucket of grain.

Humans, however, sell their freedom for invisible electronic imprints of varying lengths.

Horses go for the tangible. Humans go for the intangible.

Horses do not believe in Pie In The Sky, they only believe in Hay In The Bin.

Humans on the other hand, go to great lengths to increase the number of Pie In The Sky rewards they are willing to accept.

Horses know “There is no spoon…”; Humans are still working on it. (1)


1) “There is no spoon” sequence from The Matrix movies.

Ollie Jones March 11, 2023 6:12 PM

What’s really interesting about this? It sounds like our species and elephants are learning to share the geographical areas with some degree of harmony.

That has to be good. One hopes we humans don’t decide we can’t / won’t share the geography, and take out the big guns. One hopes individual elephants won’t do things to attack humans, and humans learn how to coexist without provoking attacks.

Bernie March 11, 2023 8:56 PM


I don’t know how to bribe an elephant, but I know how to stop them from charging*.

*In theory. I was a kid when my Dad told me the trick and I have never needed to try it.

Clive Robinson March 12, 2023 11:21 AM

@ Bernie, ResearcherZero, ALL,

“I know how to stop them from charging”

Que, the “trunk call” joke.

davis March 12, 2023 4:46 PM

Not sure if Bruce included any animal examples in his new book “A Hacker’s Mind” but if not they sure seem to display same tendencies of gaming a rules-system as humans do.

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