Ted November 19, 2021 9:58 PM


Re: Hillary Clinton trashes Bitcoin.

You know who else thinks Bitcoin is speculative gar-bagge? Indonesia’s council of religious leaders.

They have forbidden Muslims from using cryptocurrency as it has “elements of uncertainty, wagering and harm.” Can’t say I disagree.

I didn’t know China had banned cryptocurrency for private use or that North America had become the world’s biggest victim of ransomware attacks.

Who the heck is making all this money off bitcoin, and can they crawl back into their financial-collapse-clown car? Nobody needs another recession.

Winter November 20, 2021 5:07 AM

“And those in public ask “When do we get to use the guns?””

It has been clear to me that all this 2nd amendment gun nut ideology was a smoke screen for the preparation of the killing of the “others”, those with different views or skins.

Clive Robinson November 20, 2021 7:24 AM

@ Winter, name.withheld…,

The White Supremacists (QAnon et al) taken over the GOP and are preparing for a civil war. This time they think they’ll win.

Whilst there are a few that subscribe to “cold dead hand” thinking, they are not realy the problem.

The real problem is,

1, The legislators.
2, The Guard Labour.

The legislators in the US are trivially easily bribed for as little as the price of a high end car.

The Guard Labour in it’s various forms look down on the legislators but run circles around them because the legislators never follow up on oversight.

So the guard labour like very large corporations know that “slow and steady” is winning then the ground they want.

Cory Doctorow wrote a piece the other day that gives another view into the issue which is well worth a read,

desire November 20, 2021 8:14 AM

Tor Forum: a new discussion platform for the Tor Community

by ggus | November 1, 2021

"Communicating and finding help online is crucial to building a solid community. After many years of using emails, mailing lists, blog comments, and IRC to help Tor users, we believe that time has come to improve our discussion channels.

Today, we're happy to announce a new discussion and user support platform: the Tor Forum.

The new forum is powered by Discourse: a modern, friendly, and free and open source software. The forum posts are publicly readable, and you don't need to log in to navigate and access the content. It's also possible to install the Discourse App on your mobile device and receive notifications. For users who like the traditional mailing list format, Discourse features email integration. The new forum is compatible and works with Tor Browser (security slider level set 'Safer').

Currently, the Tor Forum is fully hosted by Discourse, and because they do not support onion services yet, it won't have an onion site soon. That is also why the domain is, because of our system security policy on using * only for sites we host in our own infrastructure." [...]

Winter November 20, 2021 8:32 AM

“1, The legislators.
2, The Guard Labour.”

The attempt to overthrow the government on January 6th had nothing to do with bribing legislators or guard labor. That was an attempt of Trump cs and his followers to murder opposing legislators, the vice president and the new president.

Trump is corrupt to the bone, but more like generalissimo Franco than Ted Cruz. Trump’s followers are also more like those of Franco in their fascism. However, Trump does share his incompetence with Cruz which made this whole attempt a fiasco.

Ted November 20, 2021 6:26 PM

If you want to hear more from Ross Anderson and Nicholas Boucher on their research “Trojan Source: Invisible Vulnerabilities” you can listen to them on CyberWire’s Research Saturday podcast.

It’s about a 20 minute listen; a transcript is also available.

Here is part of the interview:

Ross Anderson: And so for that reason, we thought it prudent to get as much publicity as possible to get across to CIOs and CISOs worldwide that they’d better check the toolchain and see to it that any code that they rely on isn’t vulnerable to a supply chain attack.

… So as a result, you may find that a number of companies have got the appearance of a disclosure system, but without really the reality.

name.withheld.for.obvious.reasons November 20, 2021 9:35 PM

@ Clive
I think we have covered this ground before, but as the elevated nature of the situation (i.e. is called out in public) what the guard labor and corporate stooges fail to recognize within this movement, it is not a political group or political actions. The psychopaths that are at the head of this movement have set their sights on more than power. More than a few of these heads of the movement have teased out the seizing of property and assets of others. This is not a redistribution of wealth, it is a straight up taking that they are planning. Many at the top of the food chain do not understand that they are the targets of opportunity. The plebs will be left to sort it out amongst themselves, kind of a social darwinism and lord of the flies arrangement.

Those that aligned with this group don’t understand that the top dogs (there is an assumed singular head) will decimate the donor class and their patrons. Bannon is a perfect example (he’s prone to the Mussolini style fascism), get those in position and authority along with those of wealth and string them along into a trap. It is amazing how far from the 18th century enlightened self-interest has morphed into the contemporary laissez-faire attitude towards economies and peoples of society. Surely the wealthy don’t bake their own bread, cobble their own shoes, so why are they outsourcing their moral morass and venom?

Ted November 21, 2021 7:30 AM

The Conti ransomware gang had this to say after realizing that one of their real IP addresses had been exposed by a Swiss security firm:

“Looks like Europeans have also decided to abandon their manners and go full-gansta simply trying to break our systems,”

This is ironic because the group has reportedly made $25.5 million on ransomware payments since July 2021. Conti brags it is over $300 million.

According to an article in The Record, “Conti has shown itself to be a particularly ruthless group, indiscriminately targeting hospitals, emergency service providers, and police dispatchers globally.”

From the security firm’s 37-page report:

The captured IP address with the corresponding timestamp have been shared with law enforcement authorities for further legal action against the Conti group and its affiliates.

The next image shows the contents of htpasswd file of the subject host. The password hash can be used by other researchers in future Conti investigations.

Ted November 21, 2021 7:55 AM

Insurance companies are moving away from ransomware coverage. It’s just not like it used to be.

Where hackers previously took a scattergun approach with methods such as sending out thousands of phishing emails, they have become more targeted, reading balance sheets and focusing on specific sectors.

Tom Quy, cyber practice leader at reinsurance broker Acrisure Re, said attacks were moving away from healthcare facilities and municipalities – which have weak IT controls but also little money – to manufacturing or logistics companies.

Insurance companies are also reporting that attackers are researching what companies have coverage, and are therefore more likely to pay out.

Clive Robinson November 21, 2021 8:17 AM

@ Ted, ALL,

Insurance companies are also reporting that attackers are researching what companies have coverage, and are therefore more likely to pay out.

Yup the insurance companies even pretend to be surprised by this very predictable activity.

Look at it this way, for centuries farmers have slaughtered “the fattened stock” not the scrawny screws only the “dog meat man” or “rag and bone man” might take away.

Why would the insurance companies not expect ransomware attackers to only go after “the fattened stock”?

Ted November 21, 2021 9:08 AM


Why would the insurance companies not expect ransomware attackers to only go after “the fattened stock”?

Well if they do want to go for financially-anemic targets, they could shoot for targets around popular bitcoin ATM machines.

The article also said:

U.S. cyber insurers’ profits shrank in 2020, insurance broker Aon found. Combined ratio – a measure of profitability in which a level of more than 100% indicates a loss – climbed by more than 20 percentage points from 2019 to 95.4%.

So I guess this isn’t fun for them anymore.

There is a gov website that rolled out a Ransomware Readiness Assessment (RRA) tool. I have no idea if companies use this, but it looks free.

Ted November 21, 2021 9:20 AM


Look at it this way, for centuries farmers have slaughtered “the fattened stock” not the scrawny screws only the “dog meat man” or “rag and bone man” might take away.

Some people also became connoisseurs of bugs. I personally like grapes right now. It’s miserable to be hungry.

Ted November 21, 2021 11:31 AM

Has anyone tried to see what info Amazon has collected on them?

I just submitted a request for my Kindle activity. Amazon said it should take no longer than a month to provide this to me. They have a page on their site where you can request your info from various services and products.

Apparently some reporters were concerned with the amount of info Amazon had collected on their family.

The reporter’s data request revealed that Amazon had collected more than 90,000 Alexa recordings since 2017 – averaging about 70 a day.

Apparently, Amazon – whose second HQ is in Virginia – “is now one of the biggest donors to the Virginia legislature’s Democratic and Republican fundraising committees.”

Oh boy.

Frankly November 21, 2021 4:31 PM

I threw away my Alexa when Amazon said they would share WiFi connections with neighbors. Alexa recording what you say is George Orwell “1984” level of bad.

Is Signal secure? They require entering your pin regularly. Updates are required frequently. PINs are too short.

Clive Robinson November 21, 2021 5:18 PM

@ Ted,

Has anyone tried to see what info Amazon has collected on them?

As I’ve indicated in thr past I regard Amazon as criminals who stole from me. They took money about the equivalent of 300USD in todays money for books, and kept claiming they had “delivered them” to the people doing actuall delivery. Despite several days of sitting working at home and with CCTV watching my property the delivery people did not turn up either at the times they claimed or not at all.

They did not refund the money to the Credit Card Company or the credit card company “American Express” lied to me.

Either way I have not use either of them since as I wrote actuall letters to both of them –not easy in the UK– and informed them that there theiving services were not required any more, and closed the accounts including the email account I had been using with them.

Amazon did not respond, and American Express sent a “form letter” saying they were sorry but…

So one simple experiment into “Online Shopping” via a credit card, a compleate disaster, never to be repeated.

As I don’t travel abroad these days due to ill health –not alowed to fly– I do not need a credit or debit card. If I need to get something that is only available on-line, them I use other methods open to me.

But to be honest Amazon don’t just steal from their customers, they also steal from small companies who use them. By creating what are the equivalent of “knockoff” products they sell in competition. Also their anti-knockoff policy only applies if you are a “brand” organisation with sharp legal teeth and a reputation for litigious behaviour.

So my advice don’t use them, and especially do not use any of their products as they most definitely come with very undesirable features where you are spied upon for profit over and above what you thought you were buying… Take their “Ring” security products where they actually sell access to the camera footage to other organisations… Now think about who has access to all that audio recording from their other products…

But they are not the only ones doing this, longer term readers would have been aware about occassional stories over the past decade or so about your “white goods” and other “household connected” electronics such as TV’s IoT devices that were spying on you. Often not because of the actual spying but because they had stolen other peoples work to do so (the most famous for such IP theft being Sony and their anti-piracy software on CD’s). Mostly it was “China box” IoT products and one or two far east manufacturers out of the south china seas tech countries.

Well the general view has been it was just a way to make a few extra cents on the dollar of hardware sales.

Well no it’s not a few cents on the dollar it’s billions of dollars. In some cases the actuall turnover is twice that of the hardware sales, so heven alone what the actual profit ratio is maybe as much ad 20:1…

If you think “surely not” have a read of Cory Doctorow’s recent piece on a fairly well known brand “Vizio”,

Ted November 21, 2021 6:32 PM


As I’ve indicated in thr past I regard Amazon as criminals who stole from me.

I am so sorry to hear that. $300 is very significant. Not only that, but when they break trust with you, any amount to put on the line is too much.

I, also, have had a package not delivered and had to go through at least two rounds of customer service to get a replacement and a refund. Every time something goes wrong, it does make you a little more wary.

Getting the e-books is not quite as much of a hassle, unless you care about privacy I guess. I think I knew but I didn’t quite remember the level of detail that the Kindle platform captures. I think you all have talked about it quite a bit here as well. From the article:

The disclosure included records of more than 3,700 reading sessions since 2017, including timestamped logs – to the millisecond – of books read. Amazon also tracks words highlighted or looked up, pages turned and promotions seen.

It showed, for instance, that a family member read “The Mitchell Sisters: A Complete Romance Series” on Aug. 8, 2020, from 4:52 p.m. until 7:36 p.m., flipping 428 pages.

In Amazon’s defense, it seems like some of this information is used to provide a good UI experience. For example, being able to pick up reading where you left off. But there’s no doubt that retaining this level of personal info should require an insane amount of responsibility on their part.

I haven’t been on a plane in a very, very long time myself. My dad flew a lot for work. But I guess I didn’t pick up his same sense of fearlessness. It’s mostly just local parks and such for me. Fortunately, if I slow down, I find there are so many treasures to be found.

I remember reading Cory’s article on Vizio. And also another one of his articles you posted on Congress and drugs (which was about pharma). As he said, it is a little depressing – the lobbying and all. And he continues:

We know the names of the executives, lobbyists and politicians who took pennies that cost us billions while we died in our droves. We won’t forget. Someday, there has to be a reckoning.

I mean, doesn’t there?

Doesn’t there?

If you ever need a book from Amazon, I can get one sent to you, or near you. My privacy is apparently already in the hay. I know you probably won’t take me up on it, but just the same. Also, I did end up ordering that “Defiant Garden” book that you helped me with. I’m apparently too faklempt at Amazon to be reading it right now, but I think it’s going to be a really good one🙂

6449-225 November 21, 2021 6:48 PM


… biggest donors … to the … fundraising committees

I was told once that all large companies make significant donations to both parties on a continuing basis. In the past, by cheque; and the cheques sometimes being switched in error, resulting in communications from shocked and saddened donees.

Ted November 21, 2021 7:13 PM


the cheques sometimes being switched in error, resulting in communications from shocked and saddened donees.

That’s curious. How were the cheques switched? Switched recipients?

Clive Robinson November 21, 2021 7:31 PM

@ Ted,

Some people also became connoisseurs of bugs.

Not sure that “connoisseurs” is the right word 😉

Many in the West eat prawns, oysters, muscles and some eat snails, yet the idea of locust –which actually tastes OK– or candid “bugs” or bugs with peanut sauce –again tastes OK– makes them pull faces.

I’ve actually eaten a “bug burger” and whilst it is OK it suffers from the problem nearly all low fat beef patties do as well which is a distinct lack of taste.

A little known but important fact, as old school butchers will tell you the flavour in meat that we so love, does not come from the meat but as they say “the blood and the fat”[1] being caramelized together, it’s what forms the “drippings” in the bottom of roasting dishes from which the most heavenly of meat sauces are made.

And also why chefs use “lardons” sewn through game meat and similar low fat meat with a big needle. Or they inject butter into the meat and chill it for some time prior to cooking. Or in the case of some fowl like turkey which is virtually tasteless they lift the skin away and put in lots of soft butter undetneath it or more traditionally wrap it in fat bacon or fat ham like Spanish “Jamón Serrano” or Italian “Prosciutto crudo” (both uncooked “air cured” legs of fat swine). In France they will use their dry cure equivalent “Jambon” or the more interesting taste wise “Speck” which is “lightly smoked and seasoned” over and above the initial salt curing process, it adds a rustic farmhouse taste to the cooked fowl.

Oh importantly for health reasons, properly made hams do not use “nitrate salts”[2] and it is very very rare to find any kind of ham or bacon in the US not laden with nitrates though they may try to hide this by claiming “celery salt” or “pink salt” or other nonsense. You do not want to ever use nitrates in high temprature cooking like grilling or roasting or even some types of frying…

[1] Actually that red fluid that comes out of meat in your fridge or in the bottom of fridge packs is not blood… It is liquid that comes from the muscle fibers as they relax and contains “myoglobin” not “haemoglobin” (though the both use iron to hold oxygen). Myoglobin, leaks out of the muscle fibers along with other molecules including water. When exposed to oxygen, it turns a lighter brighter red which we associate with fresh raw meat (it’s not, freshly slaughtered raw meat is normally dark purple in herbavour quadraped mamals, omnivors such as swine and milk fed young have “rosé” meat).

Myoglobin like haemoglobin has three natural colors depending on its exposure to oxygen and the chemical state of the iron within it. If little or no oxygen is present, the myoglobin in the meat appears a dark purple red. You will see this in large catering vacuum packaged meat, and it is because the myoglobin is in the deoxymyoglobin state. When meat is exposed to the oxygen in air it turns a much brighter red and is typical of meat in retail display. That “misting” of water you see in some large store butchers fresh meat displays is not actually water… It’s actually dilute hydrogen peroxide. The water stops the meat loosing “water weight” and the hydrogen peroxide breaks down to water and oxygen, where the oxygen keeps the meat bright read/pink for way way longer than it would naturally (think days to weeks) and also stops surface bacterial and other pathogen growth. Eventually myoglobin goes “rusty brown” in colour which you get with properly aged meat after half to two months of “aging” preferably “hanging”. To prevent this browning in display packs the gas inside is not air… (best not to ask).

Now other meat animals like poultry are considered white meat because they require less oxygen in some of their muscles and therefore contain less myoglobin. It’s why the basically useless flight muscles in the breast and wings of fowl like turkey and chicken is known as “white meat” and is basically tasteless (why nearly every other low fat meat protein tastes like chicken). With the legs and back muscles being called “dark meat” as they actually do real work and have real flavour when cooked. Oh and the bit of the chicken which has most succulence and flavour are the “olives”.

[2] Air / dry cure hams take around a year to cure, using nitrate salts you can gain a similar effect in less than half a week with little or no “drying out”. So it is very popular in the US for the usual reasons, even though it has what are politely called “toxicological disadvantages”[3] (basically means it kills people). Whilst the meat industry is switching to the supposedly less harmfull sodium nitrate it does not have some of the advantages of the more traditional nitrate. In the past the nitrate of choice was Saltpetre (Potassium Nitrate or KN03). Saltpetre is a reducing agent, used in making amongst other things gunpowder and many other explosives. Traditionaly Saltpetre was obtained from “middens” or other wet garbage heaps where household rubbish like wood ashes, human daily waste products –both solid and liquid– and the cleaning out of pig styes etc were dumped (you can find “piss-n-straw” recipies online). Contrary to “old nuns tales” saltpetre does not cause a lack of sexual urge, however it does have an effect on blood vessels as many nitrates do and can cause headaches and other deleterious effects both short and longterm. It’s also used as “stump remover” which should raise a few red flags in peoples minds. The excuse used by the swine processing industry in the US is nitrates stop botulism poisoning… Whilst that is true, it’s realy irrelevant. Because botulism only occures when the processing of meat is so very bad, it most likely would kill you for other reasons. So in reality the real reason nitrates are used is it makes making hams realy realy cheap, especially as it can be used to assist in making the hams hold upto half their weight in added water… It’s why some “Thanks Giving” turkey recipes call for “brining” with certain curing salts that contain nitrates, it helps keep moisture in the flesh and also helps with colour…

[3] You will find the spelling as toxilogical, toxicological, and toxological… Take your pick, though the longer toxicological is the one most often seen in dictionaries.

Clive Robinson November 21, 2021 8:49 PM

@ name.withheld…, JonKnowsNothing, SpaceLifeForm, Winter, ALL,

Yes we have, but there is that other asspect that is also being used.

As you may remember I have said that “supply chain” issues we are currently hearing being blaimed for product scarcity and thus price increases etc about are nothing of the sort. They are in fact due to “orders not being placed”. There are a number of reasons for this, but one has been “divertion of capital into lucrative disaster capatalism”.

Now those opportunities are drying up the lack of orders or the deliberate witholding of stock from shelves is to create “panic buying” or to force the purchase of “more profitable stock”.

An example being the likes of Aldi and Lidl companies growing in the UK. There have been various “gone from shelves” items, that remain gone for a few weeks then an alternative much more expensive but mainly exactly the same ingredient cost item replaces it.

For instance prior to “Lockdown” a basic family sized pie in a box was sold alongside a luxuray pie that if you looked at the incrediants had an additional pastry wash with black peper in it and a more fancy coloured box at 50% again increase in pricing.

Both pies disappeared from the shelves and only the luxurary pie has reappeared briefly at a much increased price…

Similar with british style sausages and quite a few other items.

As I know what is going on I don’t buy the “price gouging products” that are paying for one of their massive new UK-HQ build in Tolworth south London on the Surrey border.

But other companies are doing the same, often though it’s one step back from the retailer and is the holding company of a “Brand Producer” such as those behind long shelf life domestic cleaning products and similar.

Real retail price increases over the past year and a bit is around 100% on processed goods, in part by price rises, but much more by the removal of low cost items. Thus avoiding RPI figure spikes due to the way they are calculated.

I’m not the only one to spot this “lets bleed them more and more” attitude,

Cory Doctorow has also noticed it,

It’s worth reading but it will probably make you grind your teeth or similar anger behaviours, especially when you see who the profiteers are falsely blaiming for their price gouging behaviours.

Such price gouging is just a varyiation on “rent seeking” to make the top 0.01-10% a lot richer whist the rest of us are made a lot poorer.

The thing is when you look a little closer, you find that of a significant increase in income only a small fraction is actually getting passed onto shareholders who get maybe a 2-5% increase in dividends. Thus the question “Where is the rest of it going?”

Well we know the usual suspects apear to be building significant financial war chests from somewhere… The two might not be unrelated.

But also other “rentable” assets such as houses etc have significantly gone up in price for no real reason.

So the chances are we are going to see a return to inflation in double digits for those at the bottom of the economic ladder, but hidden by the way figures are calculated.

Ted November 21, 2021 10:01 PM


There is so much in your last post I am still thinking about! In the meantime, I’ve got the song “Be Our Guest” stuck in my head. It was a delightful movie tune sung by none other than the candelabra Lumière! 😄

It’s a guest! It’s a guest!
Sakes alive, and I’ll be blessed
Wine’s been poured, and thank the Lord
I’ve had the napkins freshly pressed 👏

Clive Robinson November 21, 2021 10:09 PM

@ SpaceLifeForm, ALL,

High-tech Nonsense

Yes and a very painful no, it would appear…

Now as some know I think about “locks” in all sorts of ways, after all I used to earn my crust by designing various electronic locks some of which were “high security”.

The one thing I knew above all else, that was of absolute and paramount importance to information security was,

No single point of failure

With the all important rider of,

No usage of single dependencies”.

As many Tesler owners have just discovered “Horrible Things”tm can happen when a single point of failure fails or a dependency underlying many methods such as the power fails…

But though I’ve known this for four decades atleast, there have been many occasions why I’ve had to explain when and when not to use the likes of securiry devices with deliberatky built in single points of failure. Such as safes with “re-lockers” in them.

In essence a re-locker is a mechanical mechanism to thwart drilling and explosives and ensure the safe stays locked shut to all but an expert locksmith who knows a secret. Put simply a re-locker is a bunch of glass plates that if they break stop the bolts being drawn back.

Now if you want to protect a physical object like a bunch of high value gems or jewelry from theft then re-lockers are a nice thing to have in a safe.

But you don’t want them in a safe on a truck that delivers money for instance, ink/dye capsuals are much better for that job. Ruined currancy is useless to a thief, but insurance companies have special arrangements with “central banks” where ruined currancy will for a small fee be replaced with new currancy.

But how about military safes in which crypto “Key Material”(KeyMat) is stored?

Well no, re-lockers are a bad idea, because military crypto safes get used a lot in “communications centers”(ComCens) many of which are going to get shelled or bombed or have to “bug-out” thus portable safes get thrown on the back of trucks etc, ie not the place for longevity of glass plates. You realy do not want to bug-out your ComCen to a new location and find you can not get back on line because all the cipher machines lost KeyMat on powerdown in the move, and now can not be brought on line again because the Key-tape / fill-gun or other KeyMat is locked in a safe that you have but can not open…

Less obvious is the theft of KeyMat or other Secret and above information. If a safe is locked and you can not open it you have no idea if the KeyMat/information is inside it or not. Whilst there are procedures for destroying a safe and it’s contents if it is locked you only want to do that if you know the contents are in there… That is destroying a safe is not the same as knowing you have destroyed the KeyMat / information, after all a thief may have opened the safe taken out the KeyMat / information, locked the safe and broken the re-lockers thus buying a lot of time before an expert locksmith can open the safe to establish if what should be in the safe is in the safe.

As the families of the recently deceased have found, passwords and encryption keys can be a major source of grief. A liftime of work or memories that have real value to them can be forever lost.

As some people with crypto-coin in wallets have discovered the loss of the password / key can loose you thousands if not millions in fiat-equivalant.

As more and more of our lives cease to be physical objects under lock and key, but information under unbreakable encryption we loose robustness and get unsupportable amounts of fragility.

But we also tend to forget about communications. Whilst it very very very rarely happened it was possible for the “Plain Old Telephone System”(POTS) to have a cascade fail and take entire phone regions out. One such was a software update to Unix boxes that controled electronic exchanges rather than the old “electro-mechanical” systems. Modern personal data communications reliability is actually “crap” how often have you not been able to use your mobile phone? How often has your home ADSL etc failed in some way?

We may be getting today what last century was unimaginable bandwidth and speeds but it’s unreliable and extraordinairely fragile at best. Just one key press on a computer can cause the likes of the “Boarder Gateway Protocol”(BGP) to compleatly “snafu” one a global scale. One rodent can chew through a cable at the corner of a field and bring down the entire South West US Internet, taking Silicon Valley “off the map”.

Putting everything on the Internet is a realy stupid idea, yet we are rushing headlong into it without pause for thought about what happens when communications stops…

ResearcherZero November 21, 2021 11:08 PM

Let me introduce you to Allan Frey. Frey was an American neuroscientist. In 1960, a radar technician told Frey he could hear microwave pulses. This didn’t make any sense to Frey but he tried it himself and heard it too! He then did a series of experiments in which he exposed people to pulses of microwave radiation at low power, well within the safe regime. He found that not only did they generally hear the pulses, much weirder: deaf people could hear them too. It’s a real thing and is now called the “Frey effect.”

Frey explained that this works as follows. First, the electromagnetic energy from the radiation is absorbed by neural tissue near the surface of the skull. This creates tiny periodic temperature changes. It’s only about five millionths of a degree Celsius but these temperature changes further cause a periodic thermal expansion and contraction of the tissues. And this oscillating tissue creates a pressure wave that propagates and excites the cochlea in the inner ear. This is why we interpret it as a sound.

The frequency of the induced sound, interestingly enough, does not depend on the frequency of the microwaves. It’s a kind of resonance effect and the frequency you hear depends on the acoustic properties of brain tissue and… the size of your head. So, could microwaves lead to mystery sounds? Totally.

This phenomenon was called ‘microwave hearing’ and it is also known by the name ‘the Frey effect’. Some of the workers claimed that ‘microwave hearing’ was accompanied by side effects such as dizziness and headaches and that signals of radiation could be heard by them even at a distance of 100m from the radar.

The perceived loudness was found to be linked to the peak power density, instead of average power density. At 1.245 GHz, the peak power density for perception was below 80 mW/cm2. According to Frey, the induced sounds were described as “a buzz, clicking, hiss, or knocking, depending on several transmitter parameters, i.e., pulse width and pulse-repetition rate”. By changing transmitter parameters, Frey was able to induce the “perception of severe buffeting of the head, without such apparent vestibular symptoms as dizziness or nausea”. Other transmitter parameters induced a pins and needles sensation.

Auditory sensations of clicking or buzzing have been reported by some workers at modern-day microwave transmitting sites that emit pulsed microwave radiation. Auditory responses to transmitted frequencies from approximately 200 MHz to at least 3 GHz have been reported. The cause is thought to be thermoelastic expansion of portions of auditory apparatus, and the generally accepted mechanism is rapid (but minuscule, in the range of 10−5 °C) heating of brain by each pulse, and the resulting pressure wave traveling through the skull to the cochlea.

6449-225 November 22, 2021 12:56 AM

@ ResearcherZero @ SpaceLifeForm

Is this then related to whatever is behind the “Havana syndrome” ?

SpaceLifeForm November 22, 2021 1:05 AM

@ Clive, ALL

High-tech Nonsense

The dependencies are so stupid that Tesla should not be able to sell such vehicles for safety reasons.

One should always have access to their vehicle via a physical key.
One should never purchase, rent, or borrow a vehicle that does not have a physical key.

The dependency chain is just braindead stupid.

First, your phone must be working (battery still good). Second, you must have internet connectivity (cell tower signal). Third, you are relying upon a server that you do not control (Tesla self DDoS).

This can be fatal.

Scenario. The user drives somewhere, possibly in an area with poor cell connectivity. They lock up. Weather conditions deteriorate badly. They want to leave, but can not get into vehicle, and escape a bad situation.

nitrites November 22, 2021 2:11 AM

Many veggies have 100x more nitrites/nitrates than cured meats.

ResearcherZero November 22, 2021 4:20 AM



We have directly observed GRU (Unit 29155) operatives using the equipment against both civilian and military targets, but like most things like this, the details are classified. Primarily used with bugging and interference campaigns (targeted harassment, intimidation and sometimes assassination).

Mandiant has tracked UNC1151 since 2017 and issues periodic updates on its activity. The most recent report appears to mark the first time Belarus has been linked to the Ghostwriter campaign.

European Union members have previously said they suspected Russian involvement in Ghostwriter. The Mandiant report said it had no direct proof of Russian participation but didn’t rule it out.

Belarusian Cyber-Partisans hack Belarusian Government and begin releasing information about Lukashenko and his operatives.

contains details of intelligence officers

Clive Robinson November 22, 2021 4:30 AM

@ nitrites,

The paper makes interesting reading, especially the issue of lipids acting as a switch on the behaviour of ascorbic acid and the production of carcinogens.

Winter November 22, 2021 5:02 AM

“Many veggies have 100x more nitrites/nitrates than cured meats.”

Almost all plants are inedible and most are poisonous. Those we can eat are specialy bred to be edible after correct preparation (e.g., cooking). Note the “correct preparation”.

This has been true since before humans became humans.

That said, without eating “veggies”, you will die of malnourishment. Also, food poisoning and deficiencies are the main causes of health problems. Nitrites/Nitrates are pretty low on this scale.

So, what’s your point?

Ted November 22, 2021 8:49 AM

@Clive, nitrites, Winter, ALL

Re: nitrates and nitrates

What interesting conversation. I wanted to do more reading on that and found this article. I suppose if there was any actionable advice, its that vegetables are better for you than processed meats.

But the science behind that is really fascinating. Clive, much like you said, it looks like what is present with the nitrate/nitrite and how it is processed affects what molecules it can turn into and their subsequent effects. Fascinating.

JonKnowsNothing November 22, 2021 9:04 AM

@ SpaceLifeForm, @Clive, @ALL

re: Web Hosted Keys (FAIL)

Web Hosted Car Keys

The failure of the Tesla Web Hosted Key system should be more than just a “have a backup key” moment of thought.

  • Tesla cars can be stopped by anyone who can interrupt the key signal

There doesn’t have to be any “official” reason given, a dumb one will suffice but it means than any LEA can stop any of these cars At Will and start their acting routines as seen with other LEA contrived projects.

Lots of electronic cars are susceptible to electronic halts. Similar to the other electronic hacks of keying fobs. These options are open to the Repo/Towing/Insurance industry:

  • where did you park it last?
  • have you paid the bill this month?
  • is there any reason that someone might have to lay claim to your ride?

Maybe the FindMe system will show you that the car is now in an impound lot across town. You might even be able to follow the tow truck as they head down the road.

Web Hosted Door Locks

Aside from Tesla Web Hosting the car keys, not too long ago a similar Door Lock Web Hosted system had various failures. Some of them perma-locked the door unless you paid up the monthly fee, some were companies that failed in such a spectacular fashion that they didn’t notify anyone and all the keys died when the server was shut off and some of them failed-over to Open Door mode.

Quite a few folks in my neighborhood have proudly installed the RING surveillance system.(1) My door has FREE coverage from all the neighboring cameras. Any porch pirates will be looking right into all neighbor’s cameras.


  1. Because is says RING on the external casing and the city is partners in the RING-2-COP freebee program.

Clive Robinson November 22, 2021 9:51 AM

@ Ted, nitrites, ALL,

much like you said, it looks like what is present with the nitrate/nitrite and how it is processed affects what molecules it can turn into and their subsequent effects.

The link you give mentions Vit-C (ascorbic acid) as being “protective” which is what is pushed by the medical industry…

But the paper @nitrites points to says something a bit different…

It indicates that yes Ascorbic acid does function that way with vegtable. But… when lipids (fats) are present it actually switches the other way and helps produce carcinogens…

Now I’ve been aware of the “rancid effect” of ascirbic acid and lipids for some time (it’s why you have to be careful when you make certain foods including cakes with icing on that contains ascorbic acid). But I was unaware that the process could aid in making carcinogens.

So it might just be the reason why “processed meats” with nitrates in are not safe at any level as the observational science has indicated for over fourty years.

My chemistry is not upto working my way through the “reaction energy ordering” that decides which chemical reactions happen in prefrence to others.

So as they used to say in “Who wants to be a Millionaire” I’m going to have to “phone a friend” to see if they know, or know someone / research that does.

Clive Robinson November 22, 2021 9:57 AM

@ JonKnowsNothing, SpaceLifeForm, ALL,

… but it means than any LEA can stop any of these cars At Will …

I’m not sure if that is actualy true.

Yes jaming will stop a “vehicle at rest” being accessed, that is clear.

But I’ve not seen anything that suggests the same is true for a “vehicle in motion”.

If true that could cause a major accident risk…

Does anyone know for certain?

JonKnowsNothing November 22, 2021 1:29 PM

@Clive, @SpaceLifeForm, ALL,

J: but it means than any LEA can stop any of these cars At Will …

C: I’m not sure if that is actually true.

There is a policing trap used in the USA where they place a “bait car” in a neighborhood and wait for someone to break into it or try to steal it. The car is always a “nice” car loaded with “tempting” electronics. Some popular video games revolve around cars so its a good bet there are folks who know about the ins and outs of the car. When someone enters the vehicle and passes the Goto Jail point, the cops lock everything, trapping the person inside the car. Sometimes the person attempts to smash out the windows to escape but by that time a huddle of cops are around the car. Sometimes they wait until the person attempts to drive away before pulling the plug.

There have been some reports of tests where cops tried to stop moving vehicles (of various sizes) and there are problems with “car in motion”.

Turning off the motor alone is not good because it also locks the electronics in the car: steering, doors, windows etc.

The TV program Myth Busters used a fitted remote control system to drive vehicles, cars, trucks and semis but that system had a limited range and there was a sequence with the folks in a chase car until they they were sure the crash was on the right course. I don’t remember if they could apply the brakes the cars but I would think that was part of the remote system in case they needed to reset.

There were some reports of helicopter chase being able to control a vehicle but it may not have been that successful.

There was a harpoon ram setup in chase car that was proposed, it may have been tried a few times but may not have worked well in practice because hitting the wrong section of the rear end caused the target car to swing.

Unlike a whale they didn’t play out 75 fathoms of rope.

There has been a recent tragedy where if the LEAs had been able to stop a moving car, they most certainly have done so.

name.withheld.for.obvious.reasons November 22, 2021 3:18 PM

How do you prevent a seditionist, overt traitor, from overthrowing a government? In contemporary legal terms, a conviction on sedition will require overthrowing a government or interfering and preventing a government sanctioned process and being convicted of doing so. So how do you prevent acts of sedition, I am asking you 14th Amendment.

@ Clive
I am afraid this kind of shielding, even as you advocate and call for an action such as using the military to turn over an election is with us. Sorry Clive, you are correct. This is the greatest security risk probably in our lifetimes.

lurker November 22, 2021 3:31 PM

@Clive Robinson I’m going to have to “phone a friend” to see if they know… [re food science]

Because a lot of the real knowledge in this area is gained from grannies and folklore, it tends to be disregarded by professional scientists. e.g. there is scant mention in the literature of the transformation of beta-carotene when it is heated to over 120°C in the presence of lipids to a form more easily metabolised by humans to Vitamin A. Huh? Tomatoes and carrots are better for you when fried.

ResearcherZero November 22, 2021 9:56 PM

Reuters story showed how companies including Amazon are “spending millions to weaken state laws,” and hoping Congress will also water down federal legislation “until it’s worthless.”

But do civilians really need privacy? It’s just all your conversations, your families’ conversations, device data, biometrics, what you read or search for, health data, financial information and spending habits, behaviour and movements. That data is probably all worthless as well. How much could that stock possibly be worth, that I might own, probably not that much?


ResearcherZero November 22, 2021 10:19 PM

Workers and activists in more than 20 countries are expected to protest as part of a campaign led by “Make Amazon Pay,” a coalition of 70 trade unions and organizations including Greenpeace, Oxfam, and Amazon Workers International.

Individuals everywhere “from oil refineries, to factories, to warehouses, to data centers, to corporate offices” are expected to participate in the November 26 event, according to the campaign.


“The pandemic has exposed how Amazon places profits ahead of workers, society, and our planet,”


Sell High Buy Low

ResearcherZero November 22, 2021 10:44 PM

This Black Friday enjoy the ninth episode of the twenty-second season of the American animated television series South Park.

Unfulfilled By Amazon

Ted November 22, 2021 11:55 PM

@lurker: Tomatoes and carrots are better for you when fried. @Clive: I’m going to have to “phone a friend” to see if they know

I also heard that some nutrients in tomatoes are more bioavailable when the tomatoes are cooked. More reasons for soup-making this winter.

I wish I knew more about “reaction energy ordering” too Clive. I have taken a couple chemistry classes bc my work will pay for them. But every lesson is a struggle until it isn’t as much. Then a new struggle begins.

I had to look for a different article to try to understand the nitrite/vitC/lipid interaction that @nitrites paper described. The simplest I could find was this:

When vitamin C reacts with nitrite in acid it forms nitric oxide. However, the nitric oxide can diffuse into fat; react with oxygen to form nitrosamine-generating chemicals.

I don’t think this really answers the question, but that paper was just a few degrees over my head. When it comes to health though, it seems like people don’t just snap into place even if they have the info. They are a much funnier science. And honestly it’s a gift of peace just to let them be sometimes.

Clive Robinson November 23, 2021 2:00 AM

@ Ted,

I also heard that some nutrients in tomatoes are more bioavailable when the tomatoes are cooked. More reasons for soup-making this winter.

Depends on what you mean by “nutrients” and “bioavailable” especially when you talk about “whole foods” like potatoes and avocados.

Those nutrients lists are for food in one state such as “raw” or cooked in a certain way (usually boiled for vegies). And you find the nutrients change a lot (see glycemic index GI and load GL charts to get a feel of the issue).

What happens in the likes of root vegtables is that the starchy carbs are locked in with the very complex carbs of fiber and you simply can not get much out in your dietary transit. Cooking however helps break carbs down so the usable carbs become much more available. Therefore the GI goes up. But cooking also changes the water content of foods if you boil potatoes they retain more moisture than if you bake them as for deep frying well how much water is in what they call a “crisp” in the UK and a “potato chip” in the US? Not a lot. The water content changes the GL quite a bit because upto 95% of the mass of some vegtables is water held in place by very complex cards or fiber we can not digest. It’s why raw celery actually takes more energy to process in your dietary transit than you get out of it.

But a little experiment you might want to try…

Take a banana that is yellow with faint traces of green. If you peal and eat it tastes dry and floury (and has that yuk raw potato feeling). However if you squease and squash it without breaking the skin, the inside becomes sort of puréed. When you taste it, it is a lot lot sweeter to the taste buds and a lot more moist to the palate.

Try just mauling one end of a banana and try tasting the differences.

What you have done to the banana is kind of “pre-masticate” it breaking down the carbs and releasing water.

You can see chimpanzees and other non human primates apparently go to a lot of work to eat a banana… That’s because they are smarter than humans and know they will get a lot more out of an under ripe banana if they do put some work into it.

Some fruits such as pears and strawberries have a similar effect without needing to be manipulated as they become ripe or overly ripe they become very juicy if not squishy and briefly a lot more palatable[1].

Avocado interestingly having little fiber but a lot of fat tends to loose available nutrition when you cook it… But does increase the available nutrients if you squish/squeeze it or raw purée it.

The reality is all cooking reduces the nutritional value of the food. The higher the heat the more is lost. However it can with some foods make what nutrition is in the food much more bioavailable in your dietry transit so you gain by it…

Oh but renember… Most plants are full of poisons because they do not want to be eaten. Fruit pits for instance contain “bitter almond” flavour of cyanide. Tomatoes, potatos and rhubarb you should never eat the leaves or stems and even with tomatoes don’t eat what is green.

As for “casava root” seriouly just do not eat it unless you know how to get the cyanide levels down…

As one UK newspaper food columnist said “Seriously look up on the Internet ‘death by casava'”.

[1] If your strawberries have gone to squishy, all is not lost put pure cold pressed apple juice in a pan add the strawberries and smash them in with about the same weight of white granulated sugar. Bring to a gental boil add a small nob of unsalted butter and stir it in take off the heat and spoon off any froth/scum and pour into a bowl and put in the fridge. You now have “fridge jam” you can spread on toast, or put in cakes etc.

John November 23, 2021 3:21 AM


Many folks have VERY simplistic views of ‘nutrient density’.

The ultimate is does the plant reproduce well and the animal reproduce well when it eats the plant.

Another is Does the plant dehydrate or rot…. Healthy produce does not rot!

If you have a choice, get your produce from ‘healthy’ farms that use NO external inputs.

Read Roland Bunch – Soil restoration or various recent pubs on ‘alley cropping’. Also, Farmers of 40 Centuries as a good beginning.

Much of what is published is wishful thinking full of pseudo logic that sounds nice but does not produce healthy food and degrades the soil over the years.


Winter November 23, 2021 4:10 AM

@lurker, ALL
“Because a lot of the real knowledge in this area is gained from grannies and folklore, it tends to be disregarded by professional scientists.”

If you look at the article of “nitrite”, you will see how difficult it is to even indicate how much nitrate/nitrite is produced by specific foods. It depends on how the food is prepared, the person consuming it, what was also present in the meal, what is present in the bowels etc.

We are talking dozens of ingredients, each of which is a very complex organic mixture itself, all of whom react differently to the preparation, and on each other. However, grannies’ experience advice can be difficult to interpret. I have seen some ridiculous advice (adding hard liquor to baby milk being at least rational).

The only sensible advice I have seen that always holds is to eat as diverse as possible. If everything you eat is fried, that is bad, whatever it is you eat. If everything you eat is raw, that is bad too, whatever it is you eat. If you really want to avoid certain food stuff, say, avoid all animal products or uncooked plant products, you really need supplements to survive.

Our ancestors evolved as omnivores with fire. They depend on variety and cooking (and fermenting!) to survive.

Ted November 23, 2021 7:12 AM


Re: The Lawful Access to Encrypted Data Act

That’s an interesting bill. It looks like it was introduced in 2020, but hasn’t made it any further down the line as of yet. You made me curious though.

It looks like some US bills that have become law this year are:

  • H.R.3919 – Secure Equipment Act of 2021
  • H.R.3684 – Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
  • S.1828 – HAVANA Act of 2021
  • H.R.1448 – Puppies Assisting Wounded Servicemembers for Veterans Therapy Act [*]

[*] “Veterans who participate in the program are authorized to adopt the dog they assisted in training if their health provider determines it is in the best interest of the veteran.”

Ted November 23, 2021 7:19 AM

Did everyone already think cryptocurrency was a little sus?

I don’t mean to belabor this, but there is an interesting video titled “THIS is Why 90% of Crypto Companies Are Ponzi Schemes”

Some Ponzi-esque MO’s:

  • promises unrealistic gains
  • locks up your money, or reinvests your profits back into the company
  • spends more on advertising than the product
  • lacks transparency
  • exists in questionable legal territory

If you want to see how these points apply to cryptocurrency specifically, the video gets into it at min. 4:00. I’d like to think this isn’t just confirmation bias.

Ted November 23, 2021 9:56 AM

@John, ALL

Read Roland Bunch – Soil restoration

Have you read this book already? There was this excerpt:

Millions of smallholder farmers around the world, however, are facing a serious soil fertility crisis, and many of these families also suffer from food insecurity.

Resources can vary from region to region so greatly can’t they? A year ago I submitted a soil sample for testing. They gave measurements on pH, P, K, Ca, Mg, and organic matter. Since I don’t have a farm, I ended up planting most of my plants in holes filled with all-purpose garden soil. We’ll see how it goes.

I am wondering if ‘alley cropping’ is good or bad.

Ted November 23, 2021 10:03 AM


You now have “fridge jam” you can spread on toast, or put in cakes etc.

So you have made jam before? I cannot believe how much fruit it takes to make any substantial amount of jam. I’ve tried it with apples and strawberries.

I was trying to do it with no added sugar, even though sugar has a specific purpose beyond adding sweetness.

I also tried to make orange marmalade with no added sugar. Disaster.

Clive Robinson November 23, 2021 10:18 AM

@ Ted,

I don’t mean to belabor this, but there is an interesting video titled “THIS is Why 90% of Crypto Companies Are Ponzi Schemes”

Technically most are not true “Ponzi Schemes” because those that take the money are “unrelated multiple entities” not “single entities”…

Other than that bit of “hair spliting” they are effectively the same, and I call them Ponzi Schemes[1] anyway because well it’s easy to look them up on the internet by surching for the likes of Bernie Madoff[2]

That is they work by increasing a pot of money by “invester input only” where the early “investers” payed nothing or next to norhing for the lions share of the cash pot, and each subsequent investor effectively pays more and more for a decreasing fractional share. Only in crypto-coins the price appears to follow an increasing power law whilst the share size follows a decreasing power law, both of which are “built in”.

The crypto-coin scams and they are all scams, follow one of two paths,

1, Long con.
2, Rolling con.

The recent “rug pull” Squid-coin is an example of the former. The Bitcon “hike and drop” is an example of the latter.

The danger of these schemes is those who think they are “fly investors” who can beat the system by playing along and getting out befor those running the con do.

Whilst a few who realy do know what they are doing will profit, the reality is most won’t get their shirt back.

The reason is because they do stupid things like “re-invest” or swap to other crypto-coin and don’t take a rolling cash out. That is their mind says “rather than pocket a 10% return every cycle, I get greater return by puting it all back” and guess what they either don’t make money by cashing out to early or loose the lot because they wait to long… Either way they are “Marks that have been suckered” not “fly investors”[3].

However those that control the market want two things,

1, Lock in marks
3, Lock out fly operators.

Those,10-25% transaction fees those who control the market charge effectively limits “fly operators” quite deliberately as well as creating strong lock in.

When you examin it you will find there are a few distinct groups involved with crypto-coin cons,

1, Founders
2, Exchange owners / Whales
3, Miners
4, Investors / marks.

The first two groups are often the same people and they actually control the “faux market”. They actually have little or no real initial costs and then make real fiat money on all crypto-coin transactions, hence the “rolling con” gives them a nice repeate income more or less for as long as the con lasts. As it’s a non invested cash pot system the latter two groups bare the costs and fill the pot respectively[4].

When it’s mainly “founders” running a crypto-coin con, they tend to go for the “long con” and “Cash-crash out” that gets called a “rug-pull”. Basically when the fiat-money pot gets big enough they “cash out” taking all the reserves with them and leaving next to nothing for the “marks” who came along and invested.

When it’s mainly the exchange owners / Wales running the market they tend to go for the “rolling-con”.

One way to get a feel for which type of con a particular crypto-coin is running is to look at the transaction fees. The lower these are the more likely it is to be a “rolling con”. As a check on this see how many actual fiat-money pots there are. The more there are the more likely it is to be “rolling con” rather than a “long con”.

There are a few other things that can be said, but one thing I tell every one who thinks they can be a “fly operator”

1, Never invest any money you can not aford to loose, NEVER.

Also as it’s a con,

2, Do your due diligence on the crypto-coin and it’s Founders abd Exchage operators.

3, Take fiat-money cash outs frequently.

But seriously if you want to make money out of crypto-coin,

4, Invest in the “secondary market” or the market suppliers[4].

I’m quite serious about the last one look at those companies share prices and what they are investing in. For example Nvidia who are trying to buy ARM…



[3] In a rigged market which all crypto-coins are there really can not be real “fly operators” unless they know for certain what the “hidden hand” that controls the market is doing, and they only way they can do that is by “being in on the con” somehow.

[4] There is effectively a fifth group who make money by selling actuall hardware etc to the miners and apps etc to the Marks/suckers.

John November 23, 2021 10:28 AM


Bunch’s book?

I have been practicing his techniques with amazing results. I have a butternut squash resting on a grate in my kitchen for almost a year and a half so far. No rot. Only dehydration.

There is a fellow in Brazil who has been writing recently on his recent results from alley cropping. VERY impressive. He has cured citrus greening disease with his techniques. Roger Geitzen “Citrus Greening disease” These ideas originate from Ernst Goetsch. Two other informative pubs are syntropic_guide.pdf and Perennials-Part-I-Ernst-Gotsch.pdf.

These are very recent and make very interesting reads.

So, yes I have read the books I refer to. And if it matters, your quote is out of context.

One look at American’s health and health systems will tell you what I think of the “eat whatever’ advice that is often cited with disdain.


Clive Robinson November 23, 2021 10:29 AM

@ Ted,

So you have made jam before? I cannot believe how much fruit it takes to make any substantial amount of jam.

For 1lb of finished product,

1lb of fruit
1lb of sugar
1pnt of fluid

And two-three hours to reduce down etc. The hard part if you are doing “low sugar” properlt is turning cooking apples to “high pectin doner”.

That’s why I suggest fridge jam…

Using apple juice that has not been “emzine bulked” gives you the pectin, you might need to add a little acid such as lemon juice and you need much less sugar as you don’t need the prezerving properties it gives. Also you can make it in about twenty minutes on the hob as you use less liquid and get upto ~106C setting point quite quickly. Oh and even if it does not realy set it’s still good enough for toast and cakes.

Ted November 23, 2021 10:44 AM


you might need to add a little acid such as lemon juice and you need much less sugar as you don’t need the prezerving properties it gives.

Oh and even if it does not realy set it’s still good enough for toast and cakes.

Thank you so much Clive. I will have to try that. Toasts, cakes, and even spoons!

JonKnowsNothing November 23, 2021 11:49 AM

@Clive, @Ted, @SpaceLifeForm, @All

re: vaporizing currency

Several MSM reports with different aspects:

  1. A crypto-coin schemer from Latvia was arrested while Livin’ la Vida Loca in Spain.

  “sought by Interpol since 2015, as “one of the biggest cryptocurrency con artists based in Spain”.

  1. Tolkien estate blocks ‘JRR Token’ cryptocurrency. The US investment product promising users ‘a journey through risk to reward’ has been ruled an infringement of trademark rights.

  A coin-scammer attempted to use the Lord of the Rings theme to sell “The One Token That Rules Them All”. This person is not in jail, just out of business and out of cash due to the costs of litigation. One might guess that they will need to sell off some of the other crap-coins to pay the costs.

  The JRRT Estate has recovered all the technical and physical items including: the domain name [- added] J- RR* Token -.-com [ added ]. It has stopped the developer operating under that name, and has obtained their undertaking to delete any infringing online content.

  1. An essay which aims to “support the purchase of CrapCoins”, is actually a long detailed list of why people are desperate to buy them. The key word being “desperate” because as the title indicates they have: ” No pension. No savings. No future.” A laundry list of economic failure(s), not getting any better.

  There’s a good deal of angst over “lost money” which is part of the driver for stocks, bonds and other investments.(btdt1) There is not much connection that these are Gambles and are Zero Sum outcomes.(btdt2) The desperation is genuine and Jack’s Magic Beans tap into that desperation.

&emps; Another recent article described the desperation:

  • At 58 years of age, they cannot believe they are about to become homeless.


Search Terms

Costa del Sol / cryptocurrency / con artist / arrest

Tolkien estate / blocks / ‘JRR Token’ / cryptocurrency

No pension. / No savings. / No future. / betting the house /

Ted November 23, 2021 12:55 PM

@Clive, JohnKnowsNothing, ALL

Those,10-25% transaction fees those who control the market charge effectively limits “fly operators” quite deliberately as well as creating strong lock in.

Thank you so much for that detail Clive. I went to see what the fees were on

Does this impress you?

Deposit Crypto in the App:
– 0.00%
Exchange Crypto to Crypto:
– 0.00%
Transfer Crypto to the DeFi Wallet:
– Varies by crypto (More details in the App)
Withdraw Crypto to External Address:
– Varies by crypto (More details in the App)

The app is where the ‘real’ details are! Yay!

One reviewer on Trustpilot said this:

Very high fee rate. It may be up to 50% of the amount you own when you transfer it. Unfortunately, not recommended.

And said this:

Hi there. We’re always transparent with our users – all applicable Fees & Limits for the platform are listed in the designated section within the app.

I’d really like to see what the app says, but I just can’t. It’s one app I’m just not willing not brave.


A crypto-coin schemer from Latvia was arrested while Livin’ la Vida Loca in Spain.

Lol! Great post!

John November 23, 2021 12:55 PM


I have been making fruit compote. Mostly from apples from ‘abandoned’ apple trees. Just fruit boiled a little. I add 1/2 lemon to reduce ph. Kinda like fruit sauce without the refined sugar.

Most farm apples and other fruit even organic ones are sprayed.

With ‘real’ apples or peaches or pears it is amazingly tasty. No after eating effects.

Great on toast and other stuff.


lurker November 23, 2021 2:07 PM

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plunger November 23, 2021 2:30 PM

RFK Jr.: Fauci And Bill Gates Should Be Criminally Prosecuted For Gross Negligence And Profiting Off COVID

“MICHAEL COHEN, HOST: Does it concern you then that your book and its views are being given the most prominent airtime from people like Tucker Carlson who believe that the January 6th insurrection was an inside job created to crack down on the far right?

ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.: I’ll talk to anybody. I’ll talk to the biggest idiot in the world and I’ll talk to criminals if their the only way that I can get my message out, you know, Anderson Cooper’s not going to put me on CNN because CNN is run by pharmaceutical companies that gives, you know, 70% of revenues the evening news are coming from, from NPR is, you know, Bill Gates giving $319 million to the public television and, and the so-called independent news. Anybody who wants to criticize pharmaceutical products or government or question government policies cannot do that on a normal network TV, social media. They’re thrown off. If you’re a person who has suffered a vaccine injury, and you talk about that on Facebook, you will be evicted. You’re not, you will never get on a TV program to talk about that.

When Ron Johnson, Senator from Wisconsin, had a group of people, of physicians and people who’ve been injured — clearly injured by vaccines, including people who were part of clinical trial, ended up public hearing in front of the United States Senate committee last week and recorded their sworn testimony. And all of that was removed from YouTube.

Cause you are no longer are allowed to criticize government policies. Oh yeah. I will go to places that, you know, people — I’ve always done that. I’ve always been willing to talk to people who don’t agree with me on virtually anything. I’ve been on Hannity probably a dozen times. Hannity and I agree on literally zero.

I think democracy is about building bridges to people with whom you don’t agree. With creating, you know, finding where there is common ground with other human beings. The biggest thing. The most important productive strategy or the big talk around the oligarchs and the intelligence agencies and the pharmaceutical companies who are trying to impoverish us and, you know, and, and dramatically, and, and obliterate democracy, their strategy is to create fear and division.

So orchestrated fear and divide Republicans from Democrats and blacks from whites and get a lot of infighting so nobody notices that they are making themselves billions and billions, and while they
impoverish the rest of us and, and, and execute the controlled demolition of American constitutional democracy.

And we need to talk, I probably agree with you on almost nothing. I came on here because I’m willing to talk to anybody who is willing to listen about this. Uh, you know, I think we need to start talking
to each other even about with people we don’t agree. My father told me that partisanship is poison and it’s intellectually dishonest. It’s tribalism. It’s bad for democracy.

Now we need to start talking to people as human beings, not as Republicans and Democrats. Now I don’t have to agree with Tucker Carlson on, on anything. If he invites me on a show, I’m going to go on it. Because he has a big audience. And I don’t. have to agree with you, Michael. I appreciate you letting me talk to your audience. It does not mean I am endorsing your views.


COHEN: Based on your findings, do you believe that Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates should be investigated for criminal wrongdoing?

RFK JR.: Yes.

COHEN: Plain and simple?

RFK JR.: Of course. I mean, I think Fauci’s policies — 80% of the people who died from COVID should not have died.

We should’ve been doing early treatment like the Chinese did. The Chinese put early treatment protocols with chloroquine, which is hydroxy — the cousin of the hydroxychloroquine.

In April, they had protocols with all the drugs we know are effective, anti-coagulants, anti-inflammatory steroids, hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, and then vitamins, Vitamin D… they had dozens and dozens of Chinese herbs on their protocol that they published.

And guess what? They obliterated the pandemic after a month and a half using early treatment, the Chinese had three deaths per million population, you know, but Tony Fauci, had 2,200 Americans. We have the biggest body count in the world because of his policies. We have, we have 4.2% of the global population. We had 14.5% of the casualty COVID casualties. Why is that a success? Right. Of course he should be criminally prosecuted because what he did was clearly, clearly demonstrably purposeful. And I can prove that in front of a jury. We know. And if you, if you read my book, just the first chapter, you will see that indictment laid out clear as day.

He deliberately sabotaged by using fraudulent methodologies, ivermectin, hydroxy chloroquine, and promoted a drug that he knew was deadly, Remdesivir.”

Ted November 23, 2021 3:56 PM

@SpaceLifeForm, Clive, JohnKnowsNothing, ALL

Re: ConstitutionDAO

Lol. Oh lord. Web3 at its finest. Can’t believe how high the transaction fees (aka ‘gas prices’) were both to buy Ethereum and then to try to get a refund. I wonder how many of these investors will consider it a lesson learned.

Kudos to Vice for throwing some money in the ring to see how it worked. Having to pay $75 to make a $75 contribution is absurd. And then for so many people to have their refunds wiped out by fees? Just wow.

anton v November 23, 2021 4:05 PM


You may opt out from having Google Analytics collect your information … by installing the Google Analytics Opt-out browser add-on.

Disabling some cookies might be a better idea. Or use that EFF “Privacy Badger” plugin. Because that browser add-on, made by Google, might well gather even more data for Google.

SpaceLifeForm November 23, 2021 5:03 PM

@ anton v, lurker, ALL

At minimum, use Privacy Badger, and uBlock Origin. Maybe also Cookie AutoDelete.

Did I mention FF?

[429 – retry]

SpaceLifeForm November 24, 2021 12:55 AM

@ Ted, John

I ended up planting most of my plants in holes filled with all-purpose garden soil. We’ll see how it goes.

I would not count on great results.

Sounds like you have a very heavy clay soil. So, your holes basically became planting pots that have no drain. The all-purpose garden soil is missing the key chemicals P, K, Ca, Mg. So, you will have to feed. If you are trying to grow something edible, then you need those chemicals to produce good produce. Heavy rain will be your nemesis.

It can take years to build up a good soil. You want a loam.

Planting alfalfa, and tilling it back into the soil really helps.

SpaceLifeForm November 24, 2021 1:39 AM

@ JonKnowsNothing, Clive, MarkH, Winter, ALL

Possible. Let’s see what Northern Hemisphere Winter brings.

Remember, Japan has high vax rate, and extremely high mask rate.

According to a “potentially revolutionary” theory put forward by Professor Ituro Inoue, a genetics expert, the Delta variant simply accumulated too many mutations to the virus’ error-correcting protein called nsp14.

SpaceLifeForm November 24, 2021 2:46 AM


This is 47 minutes long. I recommend you view it twice. Seriously.

If you care about Security.

Bert Hubert knows what he is talking about.

Keynote: Who really controls the internet? And should they?

This presentation discusses how control of the internet experience is moving more and more into the hands of browser and phone vendors.

Clive Robinson November 24, 2021 2:57 AM

@ SpaceLifeForm, All,

I surmised that outcomes may vary depending upon how recently someone who got infected had previously had a common cold.

Back then or there abouts I posted a link to “observational studies” that showed that people who had pets, particularly cats, were more likely to be asymptomaticaly infected.

It raised a similar question about if “cat corona viruses” of which there are many, caused a partial immune response in the pet owners.

As with many other “opportunities” to save lives of people who would likely die of COVID-19 if they got infected, the research would not pay drug companies returns so it was actively quashed…

It’s long been known that pet owners have not just different disease profiles –swine farmers as well– but even their “gut flora” is sufficiently different to stand out.

We talk about zoonotic transfer as though it’s an all or nothing event. Yet we know nature follows the normal distribution curve in almost every thing it does…

So as a hypothesis it’s not unreasonable to say that zoonotic transfer and an immune response of some level will happen to all virus that you get in you, even if humans do not go on to full infection where they then cross some –as yet unknown– threshold where they then become disease vectors.

To support this we are aware that if two virus get in the same cell simultaniously the replication method can end up doing a “mix-n-match” so ending up with what is a major not a minor mutation, which will go on to try and infect other cells in the host and if successfull become a new disease or varient there of.

JonKnowsNothing November 24, 2021 3:41 AM

@SpaceLifeForm, @Clive, @MarkH, @Winter, @ALL

re: Delta variant simply accumulated too many mutations

An interesting hypothesis

  • There are some 130+ sub-lineage variants of Delta2Plus. These are regional sub-lineages that may be shared across countries or highly localized.

The introduction of new sub lineages to a location, depends on how much incoming-outgoing human traffic happens.

The reason the sub-lineages are not more prominently featured in reports is the Folks In Charge have decided that a particular set of mutations == delta. This set of 3 or 4 mutations that crosses the entire family. The 130+ are mutations in other parts of the virus.

One particular sub-lineages is getting more visibility AY4.2 and also a new sub-lineage to the South Africa variant Beta B.1.351 / 501Y.V2(not a Delta) coming up strong on the outside in the UK.

There are sub-lineages that have gone extinct like the original SARS-CoV-2 and the earlier mutations from 2020 which where replaced with the enhanced versions we have now. As was originally hoped, if the virus doesn’t find a victim the virus dies out and the extinct variants & sub-lineages show it CAN happen.

The MSM report was a bit short on which sub-lineage is referenced as being extinct.

There have been some interesting reports from some countries in Africa where they have not had huge outbreaks even though they have few vaccines (US,UK,EU hogging) and they have not much in the way of health care.

There are 2 theories being examined:

a) The countries have a relatively “young” demographic. The older population has already died off over the last decades from other outbreaks (Ebola/HIV).

b) They all have a high incidence of malaria. There maybe some interplay between the immune response due to a malaria infection that gives an improved immune response to SARS-CoV-2.

Gen2 and Gen3 vaccines, and drug treatments are In The Queue for Q1 2022.

Whether they will get the same “fast track” approval is TBD. One of the current supplier’s has indicated that these new treatments should get the old approval routine because “the COVID19 CRISIS is over” ; “COVID19 is now Ordinary and Common requiring no urgent or extraordinary response”.

“Probably by the end of the winter, more or less everyone in Germany will be vaccinated, cured or dead.”

German Health Minister, Jens Spahn. 11 22 2021

John November 24, 2021 6:08 AM


There are many ‘planting tricks’. If you have heavy soil, ‘double digging’ will probably help a lot.

The idea is that even many years after plowing there are compacted layers under the soil. Typically they are 6-18 inches under the soil. These block vertical water and air flow. Most plants on the top don’t have a chance. Planting on the top of ‘hills’ helps for the same reason.

With double digging, you dig two shovels deep to break that layer before you plant. You can do the same thing by planting daikon radish for a year or two. After the roots die and rot they leave holes in the plow layer that let the plants eventually break the plow layer.

If you read the Roland Bunch book, many many people around the world combine planting of various beans with their crop. The combination results is much larger crops for both plants even with no external inputs.

And over the long term [40 years], each year the crop is bigger and the soil is ‘healthier”.

His observed results suggest that ‘modern farming techniques’ not only hurt the soil but produce less healthy produce and less of it each year.

This whole subject is neatly avoided by tractor manufacturers and chemical fertilizer companies!!

Good luck with your crops.


Ted November 24, 2021 6:40 AM

@SpaceLifeForm (aka @Spacefromlife), ALL

Re: Bert Hubert video

I’ve watched about 7 minutes of it so far. Would also highly recommend.

Clive Robinson November 24, 2021 7:24 AM

@ SpaceLifeForm,

Bert Hubert knows what he is talking about.

Not got time to watch it yet, as it’s in “the working day” here.

Read the blurb which basically says,

1, Browser developers
2, Mobile Phone companies.

I can tell you why movile phone companies have such influance…, it is that they solved –all be it badly– the “rendezvous protocol” issue.

That is the Internet under IPv4 was never realy ment to provide “floating connectivity”, it’s based on hosts being not just in one place but also connrcted ro the same wire pair…

Clive Robinson November 24, 2021 12:36 PM

@ JohnKnowsNothing,

There are 2 theories being examined

It should also be noted that

“The base serum Vit-D there is around three times that in European, and US states.”

Apparently the Vit-D “recommended levels” in Europe, UK, US are just about sufficient to stop rickets, and people in these areas really should be taking Vit-D supplements as well as ensuring their Vit-K2 levels are of a sufficient level.

Unfortunately… Some of us have low K vitamin levels[1], due to having to have restrictive diets from side effect issues with stopping blood cloting where we do not want it, and we have been put on “rat poison” (warfarin / coumadin). In order to prevent thrombosis, DVT, PE, CE, etc that can give rise to heart issues, strokes and death much younger –by upto a 1/4century– than the norm for the more advanced Western nations.

Apparently low Vit-K2 along with high levels of Calcium often given with Vit-D can cause “pipe clay blood vessels” and similar wall hardening…

[1] Main dietary source those dark green leafy vegtables…

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SpaceLifeForm November 24, 2021 3:15 PM

@ JonKnowsNothing, Clive, MarkH, Winter, ALL

They all have a high incidence of malaria. There maybe some interplay between the immune response due to a malaria infection that gives an improved immune response to SARS-CoV-2.

I suspect that Linked Genes may be in play on chromosome 11, where the mutation that leads to Sickle Cell resides.

There may be a Linked Gene that is also mutated that influences immune response.

The different Genes may never really interact via their expressed proteins.

They may have nothing to do with each other at all. It may just be a quirk of the storage system.

They just may be Linked due to energy conservation at the various folding levels of the DNA.

RNA is the volatile ‘working memory’ version of DNA. DNA is like the flash drive storage of biology. DNA is very durable, internally redundant and very reliable. But much like computers do not execute code directly from a flash drive, before something happens, code gets copied to a faster, more versatile yet far more fragile system.

For computers, this is RAM, for biology it is RNA. The resemblance is striking. Unlike flash memory, RAM degrades very quickly unless lovingly tended to. The reason the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine must be stored in the deepest of deep freezers is the same: RNA is a fragile flower.

Clive Robinson November 24, 2021 4:23 PM

@ SpaceLifeForm, JonKnowsNothing, MarkH, Winter, ALL,

With regards,

“For computers, this is RAM, for biology it is RNA.”

Actually when you think about it RNA is more like “cache or register memory” not the implied core DRAM.

That is core DRAM is nicely seperated not just by process/thread but by code / variable type, and the reuse apart from on the heap is low, and it stays that way. In short it’s effectively stored “at rest” memory very similar to the Flash memory just that the individual “bag of bits” data types are packed (FRAM) and unpacked (DRAM).

However Cache and importantly register memory hold tiny fragments whilst “processing” / “exacuting” just as it is inside the cell. They both “realy mix it up” with heavy reuse which is why mutations happen in both. Not just the occasional minor, blip but the major events when two viral or program threads get mixed up.

SpaceLifeForm November 24, 2021 4:51 PM


Linked Genes

Took me a while to find. Good read.

Finally, linked genes that do not independently assort show statistical linkage. Statistical linkage is detected as deviation from independent assortment that favors the parental gametes. Syntenic genes are genes that are physically located on the same chromosome, whether or not the genes themselves exhibit linkage (Passarge et al., 1999). Therefore, all linked genes are syntenic, but not all syntenic genes show genetic linkage.

[DNA Folding is a factor somehow at the energy and storage level. Sex is key. If the zygote has energy and storage issues, it will abort. Quantum]

[Ask yourself, Self: why does an Apple have more Genes than me?]

[Junk DNA may not be junk. It may all be about Energy and Storage, and the Folding]

ResearcherZero November 25, 2021 12:51 AM

@SpaceLifeForm Thanks, will take a look at that presentation.

A recently declassified intelligence report determined that the United States “has not sufficiently adapted to a changing geopolitical and technological environment increasingly shaped by a rising China and the growing importance of interlocking non-military transnational threats…

Absent a significant realignment of resources, the U.S. government . . . will fail to achieve the outcomes required to enable continued U.S. competition with China on the global stage for decades to come, and to protect the U.S. health and security.”

The US is unable to compete effectively within the information environment due to a “lack of bureaucratic coherence and leadership.”

Meanwhile, every American is vulnerable to IW as unwitting victims within the information environment.

To reverse this trend this essay offers several recommendations.


SpaceLifeForm November 25, 2021 2:35 AM

@ Clive, JonKnowsNothing, MarkH, Winter, ALL,

However Cache and importantly register memory hold tiny fragments whilst “processing” / “exacuting” just as it is inside the cell. They both “realy mix it up” with heavy reuse which is why mutations happen in both. Not just the occasional minor, blip but the major events when two viral or program threads get mixed up.

Spot on.

But, ultimately, are not both really all about electrons floating on a proton and neutron cloud?

Time to measure the pH of my motherboard.

Anders November 25, 2021 5:01 PM

@All @Clive @SLF

New strain is making headlines. B.1.1.529


Anders November 25, 2021 5:25 PM

@SLF @Clive @ALL


And news from Estonia, concerning our ID card.

Turned out our ID card had in past several flaws and
information about them were classified for 10 years.

In the nutshell – ID card was possible to use without any
PIN code whatsoever – you needed to pass to ID card chip
certain sequence. Basically god mode.

Second problem – RSA key pair was generated OUTSIDE of the
ID card and private key was later copied to card. They were
sloppy, so several cards got the same private key. No one knows
who had access to those private keys in the end.

In the end – a very nice “Estonian success story”.

Sorry, article is in Estonian, use Google translate.

Clive Robinson November 25, 2021 5:47 PM

@ Anders, SpaceLifeForm, ALL,

New strain is making headlines. B.1.1.529

From The Grauniad piece,

“Prof Francois Balloux, the director of the “University College London”(UCL) Genetics Institute, said the large number of mutations in the variant apparently accumulated in a “single burst”, suggesting it may have evolved during a chronic infection in a person with a weakened immune system, possibly an untreated HIV/Aids patient.”

Not exactly unexpected…

What was it I said this time yesterday about RNA being more like Cache and Register memory rather than storage FRAM or core DRAM…

I’ll be honest and say that I’ve been expecting a mutation / varient that is both,

1, Significantly more infectious
2, Significantly more virulent

Thus significantly more lethal not just in the short term, but longer term due to an increased systemic damage factor causing organ failure or novel autoimmune disease.

SpaceLifeForm November 25, 2021 9:35 PM

@ Anders, Clive, JonKnowsNothing, ALL

This story about B.1.1.529 is nonsense.

It is clickbait, and intended to manipulate markets.

SpaceLifeForm November 25, 2021 11:13 PM

@ Anders, Clive, JonKnowsNothing, ALL

Check the Oil Price futures in past 6 hours.

Someone is getting squeezed.


It is not a Nu concept.

Winter November 26, 2021 12:05 AM

“It is clickbait, and intended to manipulate markets.”

It sounds more like “shit happens”.

ResearcherZero November 26, 2021 3:30 AM

the new variant is metamorphic and more autonomous and can “decide on lateral movement based on internal logic.” It can also selectively identify files for modification, seeks to escalate privileges, encrypts traffic to the server, and functions as a backdoor.


‘Hey, eat your vegetables.’ It’s come to the point where we’re basically saying the security equivalent of ‘Eat them or you’ll die.’


Andres November 26, 2021 9:50 AM

@Clive @SpaceLifeForm @ALL

NOW there’s also an English version.


Clive Robinson November 26, 2021 5:50 PM

@ SpaceLifeForm, Anders, ALL,

Gemalto rings a bell

Yes GCHQ and the NSA allegedly,

“Compromised the root of trust”

But we’ve had this “root of trust compromise” discussion before. The conclusion drawn then has not changed, the only way to ensure the root of trust is not compromised is by “total segregation”, which in effect makes the root of trust effectively usless for most practical uses such as communications.

When we work out a solution to the root of trust issues, then life will definitely move into “interesting times” for some…

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