Schneier on Security

Doctor Frankenstein • November 9, 2016 10:37 PM

@ab

This is a very good article on why trump won, and includes commentary on the polling

http://listverse.com/2016/11/09/10-reasons-trump-won/

It was a close race, but the serious irregularities were from hacking the dnc and fbi pushing bullshit charges.

The negatives on trump have severe merit, but not the same on Clinton. Just like the birther conspiracy was crap and the 90s investigations against Clinton. Which ended with the ludicrous Lewinsky scandal.

That was the best they could get.

Powell ran outside email in the same position. Who cares? I dont.

As someone who wants regime change in China and across Muslim nations… well, Trump is all for that.

He said as much, and means it.

Thanks for supporting this.

But as I see europeans actually buy into that bs about Clinton? Sorry, not true.

So would suggest really adjusting your own goggles before beginning to start looking at others eyesight problems.

Doctor Frankenstein • November 10, 2016 2:17 PM

@keiner

together with your biased police system a time bomb to explode in hate and violence.

Hopefully, people contain themselves. (I write, as there are rampages across the country…)

We saw what happened under merely Bush. So, this is bad.

Unfortunately, I do believe all nations continue to have biased police systems. Not that there are not many “good” police. But, I do have to say, the FBI really came out for Trump this election.

Now, were there forces behind that which were beyond “the FBI”? This can be assumed to be so. The FBI is actually but one division of the Department of Justice. A very, very big division, but still. They are down on a totem pole. And at their top, of both the FBI and the DoJ, there are people wired into all sorts of power structures.

It can be really hard to miss this bias, though it can be shown via many articles, and understood anecdotally: if you see your neighbor put in a police car and driven away under many flashing lights, while many serious faced cops bring out of their house many boxes of papers and such… does this not bias you as to their guilt?

And has no one here ever seen someone accused, and considered “guilty, until proven otherwise”? Sadly, the mere accusations, especially by such a deeply esteemed organization as the FBI, taints how people see someone. It mentally paints for them over the person: “Criminal”, indeed, “Felon”.

Doctor Frankenstein • November 10, 2016 2:43 PM

@ab

Hey! “Do not assume evil intention when plain stupidity can explain it as well” is applicable to my utterings, too!

I have certain basic rights, after all!

Very good, charming, humble sentiment. I apologize for being a bit hard in my response. I have never posted to you before, but have been posting here for a number of years, sporadically. I change my name frequently. Perhaps, you have done the same, though while I see “r” missing, and now find you… though “r”, I do not recall getting cranky. I think you were a bit cranky with the pollster fraudster.

I do have technical accomplishments. I have worked in intelligence. I have created software or at least strongly influenced software which probably runs on a system you have, which is security software. Much more likely such influence is on the software your government runs, especially law enforcement, intelligence. And on security software your high priority target corporations run, such as corporations in energy, in cutting edge research fields, defense contracting, and the like.

However, I do enjoy this list because many of the posters are well read and make for excellent analysts of breaking news and political stories which have a scitech edge to them.

This, I have found, especially true with those who are accomplished at finding security vulnerabilities in systems. But, almost equally true with security minded developers, managers, and the like.

The, as Mr Robinson would say, “hinky” talented thinkers.

I do disagree with you that all politicians are the scum of the earth, though understand the sentiment. I believe true change happens from quiet, subtle influence where one does not have the luxury of leaving the fingerprint of one’s own name. Much more gets done this way. Because people all want good ideas, and they usually have no idea where they get them from. My own self included. And those voices in my head… harharhar (a little implausibility note here, to downgrade attention).

Hacking is where the new intelligence is, I would add. Both are information technology centric. Not unlike journalism. However, unlike journalism, hacking and intelligence, be it information gathering or direct action operations, well, they are equivalent. And you can do today with hacking what you could never do in the 80s and before with even an vast army of moles and covert case officers.

(Or, in fbi parlance, informants and special agents.)

So, the world is changing, though people have not yet seen true power.

And it is certainly wise to pay attention and think on these matters. What does it mean, for instance, for Russia to have attempted to influence the US election in these ways? Does the US do it? China? North Korea? Your own state law enforcement?

And so on.

But, I would agree with the sentiment that the conspiracies of men are foolish, and weak. They are not gods, they have limited lives and very limited capabilities. Certainly, very limited capacities for managing their own egos, especially when tied up to “power”.

Doctor Frankenstein • November 10, 2016 8:55 PM

@Grauhut

I think its easier, Trump is simply a marketing pro and a

gifted salesman.

I would agree. Though these handful of articles state as much. Sales

was actually how I got into computer security and intelligence. I had

a direct relative in intelligence and picked up a job in the

newspaper they had pointed out to me indirectly. It was for training,

and the initial training was entirely indirect: hard core, door to

door “tin man” sales. I mention this because I appreciate the art.

And, back then, I read Donald’s book cover to cover. Along with Zig

Ziglar, Bandler & Grinder, and many other such books.

This philosophy is to always be a “closer”. You do not lie, but,

instead, communicate indirectly in order to get the best choice made.

If you play a role, the role is not a lie, but merely a

communicational vehicle to obtain a beneficial choice.

Two and a half decades later, I strongly appreciate the art of

closing, and Trump is definitely a salesman and a closer.

If you want to know, high school, was private and encouraged a lot of

risk taking, to say the least.

@Bong-Smoking Primitive Monkey-Brained Spook

Uh hmmm. That’ll work real well! Attention += 1500 🙂

A science you show your self as knowing well. 🙂

So often we deal with people who are such horrible hypocrites,

judging people by standards they make no effort to even begin to try

and hold up their own selves. But, their ‘do this’ and ‘do not do

this’ laundry lists of instructions make them very poorly suited for

evading their detection and getting them to do what you need them to

do.

They make themselves robots, and you just have to know where their

instruction set is, in order to fly under the radar to give them

instructions you need them to take.

@EM Bodied

All seriousness aside, my family fled Germany in the

30s.

Trump could be a very Dark America, Dark Eagle rising… or not.

Often, today, what is very, very dark? Is quite good. And what

appears to be very “upfront” and good? Is quite wicked.

But, it is true. People can forget how they do not take the words of

persuaders more seriously. To persuade means to establish rapport,

first. Good or bad, many merely teach what others wish to hear. And

they die in their roles. They go down into the grave to teach, and

are stuck there.

Bad actors, indeed…

@ab

My interest is in observable facts and in mechanism.

Yours is to spread a pro-clinton view. That’s just

incompatible.

If I were “pro-clinton”, I would say as much.

Clinton is a non-player and completely meaningless at this juncture.

I did not vote for her.

Clearly, I was simply mistaken for believing you could handle

critical analysis. Critical analysis means you attempt to approach

problems from looking at it from many directions, even very

contradictory directions.

Playing your “opponent” as the strawman is as basic of a human flaw

in cognitive understanding as human beings can get, and reveals a

mind which is unaccustomed to intellectual security thinking.

Moreover you seem to know nothing about

Russia

This is a childish statement.

So, you are in your early twenties, and I am twice your age. You have

no experience in either computer security nor intelligence?

Seriously, try and avoid making a complete fool of your self.

(and, Pardon me, little about your own countries inner

workings and power structures).

“Country’s”, not “countries”, in plural. Is this your sad attempt to

try and vet me? Lol. 🙂 My “birthdad” was MIA in Cambodia, which was

not acknowleged when he went missing. I was adopted by a family

member who was in the FBI, working under a very covert cover in a

very major front organization created shortly after WWII.

I have direct and indirect connections to many “three letter”

agencies through my several decades of a career. I was part of a very

small and exclusive program to create deep undercover officers

trained from their pre-teens to do this manner of work. A program

which was temporarily discontinued when the wall fell.

I can state all of this because there is no way anyone could ever

prove it.

China, Russia, Israel… have programs like these. But, the US does

not. At best, we have temporary contractors, usually from military.

Or covert folks whose faces were photographed at the career

chokepoints of langley or west point or the farm or quantico.

If Putin is known for something then it’s that he is a

trained lawyer and “legality-obsessed”. Often to the dismay of the

more conservative russian security circles.

Putin is a spy. Many lawyers are spies. Many in my family are both

lawyers and spies. I can go so far as to say. I respect Putin for

this. But, I find him and his intelligence services to be terrible at

what they do, so, at best, I can only tell you that they are stooges

for American and Western, Christian, interests.

I don’t say that there are no Russians, e.g. in the

secret service who would play games with another countries elections.

What I say is that those wouldn’t dare to eben think about it because

Putin as well as their agency bosses would quarter und draw

them.

The idea we do not have Russia entirely compromised and controlled

continues to be amusing to me.

In a muahahaha sort of way.

Believe me, I have a very difficult problem judging whether these

evil “muahahaha” laughs are more pleasurable then actual orgasms.

That whole “It’s the Russians!” thing is but a mixture of

paranoia, blunt stupiditiy, and a PR stunt from the clinton

people.

Yet, we continue to poke you in the eye.

My supervisor, btw, by all appearances, is Russian.

How is that? Another fine game.

I have the utmost respect for Russian secret intelligence. I read all

of the Mitrokihn archives. Long ago. I studied both early leninist

and czarist intelligence services in middle school…

I knew Robert Strauss, personally, the ambassador to Russia, before

the wall fell.

Directorate S… wow. I really relate with these guys. Their stories

help my alternating PTSD so very much. But? They are children and

amateurs in comparison.

Russia barely made it out of bankruptcy last year.

Way, way back when, when the US Secret Service and Diplomatic

Services were thought very much NOT to be foreign intelligence… we

owned them.

Now, as we start to close the gap, shall I not give out a “villain’s”

monologue, and perhaps without the joking warning of Ozymandias??

🙂

We knew that the turn coat of NY did not give us all the directorate

s agents, but merely throwaways they wished to recall anyway.

We have always been several steps ahead of Russia.

Indeed, both Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen were agents for the US.

Neither are truly in prison, anymore then either of those names are

real. Such simple minds Russians have.

In case you are interested: Actually very many Russians

aren’t happy with Trump. Simple reason: he is largely an

unknown.

Which would appeal more to a young US millionare? To be a dupe of an

agent from Russia who comes from a Soviet Bloc nation… or to work

for the Company and try and really change things, to be a true

American Spy. Like Hunt.

Well, whatever, my interest in that thing was the

mechanisms behind it and not clinton or Trump. Have a nice

day.

I will only assure you that as I begin to take upon myself the glory

of my father, embracing his legacy, of this terrible underground,

invisible, “secret team”… that I will not play the game in the same

way, but adopt a total ruthlessness never seen in the world before.

This is exactly why we pushed Trump into the Presidency.

We are opening doors for Russia, to bring them along the maze into

our traps. A villain’s monologue? Believe me. This stuff is quite

better then sex. To fuck nations and smash their faces… like

‘pieces of pottery’.

I will state, insofar as Russia turns to their orthodox roots, I wish

to save them. China, Islamist nations, not so lucky.

A black and dark America is rising. And we will not be so nice to you

as we were before.

Or?

I could be totally just fucking with you, lol.

Definitely had quite a bit of wine tonight. Quite fun. Harararahar.