UWOTM8 November 7, 2014 7:37 PM

Do you know the fact that true hacker speak less? Communication skill is not so important to me. If I’m a CEO, I’ll hire a people who has a great skill, even he/she can’t communicate with other person.(I require only basic communication skill anyway)

And what is this, “live in the Boston area”? Do you really think people will apply to your company? You’re ignoring too many possibilities.

Bruce Schneier November 8, 2014 9:24 AM

“How fulfilling are these jobs?” I’d rate them a 23.

“What if the applicant does not like corporate culture?” Applicant should not apply for corporate jobs.

g3g59hg4kjnkjkjh November 8, 2014 10:23 PM

“If I’m a CEO, I’ll hire a people who has a great skill, even he/she can’t communicate with other person”

Heh.. All I can say is I hope you never have to practice that philosophy in America unless you’re exceptionally talented in a demanded field.. Which considering the level of rigor and expense of development in current day theoretical science and engineering; I don’t see even if you’re some savant.

I’m surprised by these comments because I have a feeling these people don’t have the portfolios and social requirements covered. Being some cog at an engineering firm or software studio likely won’t even get you an interview; I’d bet money even being reputable would without some inside resume pulling and strong social networking.

This isn’t EU or Russia where you just do some tests and get hired and have an edge with a degree and experience either..

Nick P November 8, 2014 11:46 PM

@ g3g59hg4kjnkjkjh

Good points. Every bit of good contract work I get I had to practically fight for. That’s crazy given my capabilities, portfolio, and referrals. I recently tried to get some Universities to collaborate for a grant proposal on something that a key player in the grant-issuing organization thought sounded good. No replies from most. (rolls eyes) Yet, that kind of bulls*** is how INFOSEC works in America in academia and business. Probably in other places too from what I’ve seen people post.

Nick P November 8, 2014 11:50 PM

@ Bruce

I’m kind of surprised this post only had a few comments and of the kind I see above. I’d have guessed other blog posts would be troll bait before this one. The Web never ceases to surprise me…

Rick November 9, 2014 1:10 AM

@ Nick

My guess is that Bruce is a bit disappointed, too. I am, and I’m not vested.

Good jobs are tough to find now, and Bruce is offering more: a career. I would sincerely love to work for a successful ‘startup’ like Co3. After a cursory review on the web, I see it is completely full of “win”, to use a colorful phrase. Alas, I lack most of the necessary experience listed in the descriptions to even apply. Now, if only there was a position open for a writer and an InfoSec mentee… but maybe my comments will raise someone’s spirits and restore some confidence.

Incredulous November 9, 2014 9:05 AM

Thanks for listing this, Bruce!!

A few sour grapes over the limitations imposed by the location/environment are not too surprising. There is no “sour grapes effect” if the grapes don’t look tasty!!

I wouldn’t mind working for a security company if I knew that it were not in league with the Evil Empire. Bruce’s presence is the best reassurance that I can imagine.

Nick P November 9, 2014 1:41 PM

@ Rick

Yeah, it looks great far as startups go. Probably a good company to work for. Especially for people right out of college needing a decent job. I’d have done at least some contract work with them if they weren’t on a different side of INFOSEC than I am.

Clive Robinson November 9, 2014 11:37 PM

@ itgrrl,

As with cats, “all hats are grey in the dark”… just as “all useful technology is agnostic to use”, it’s the intent of the “directing mind” when seen from “the perspective of power” that counts.

Andrew_K November 10, 2014 12:51 AM

Hats are chameleons. Working as a consultant makes me teach INFOSEC/awareness topics to military, police, and local civil rights activists — all in one week. I do not sell them to each other. Now, what color is my hat?

Clive Robinson November 10, 2014 4:09 AM

@ Nick P,

Green I’d say.

As in camouflage?

Or in the words of the traditional song –Steeleye Span rocked up in 75– “All around my hat I will wear the green willow, for twelve months and a day”, as a sign of morning. For in this case the death of privacy.

Wesley Parish November 10, 2014 4:19 AM

I read the job descriptions. I chuckled over a few:

Highly organized, detail-oriented, motivated, and well-suited to a fast-paced and dynamic environment
Excellent written and verbal communication skills
Strong work ethic, personal integrity, and passion for building the next big thing

Unfortunately I’ve been immersed in an environment where skills are not transferable for too long. I somehow doubt that
constitutes proof of any writing skills; likewise, I’ve met managers in New Zealand who doubt that working as a volunteer techie for a non-profit organization constitutes proof of either motivation, a strong work ethic or personal integrity. Of course, because it takes a salary of several hundred thousand a year to get them to work, they fail to understand the joy of actually doing something useful and beneficial to others is often enough, and was enough for me to cycle through a snowstorm on one occasion.

Clive Robinson November 10, 2014 8:55 AM

@ Wesley Parish,

Hmm “fluffy was a bit of a dog”, or not realy a “wolf in sheeps cloathing”… but you could have thought up a worse ending, along the lines of fluffies owner walking in on them, then it would have ruined the reputation in both worlds as it wear.

Nick P November 10, 2014 10:31 AM

@ Clive Robinson

Green as in the money he’s rolling in from working for “military, police, and civil rights activists” all in one week. 😉

FRANK ESCALANTE December 26, 2014 10:37 PM


I am not an experienced Intelligence Analyst. However, I am very interested to gain more experience and grow with your company. My Masters Degree in Homeland Security may not be enough that’s why I am taking another degree in Intelligence Analysis Studies. The problem is I live in California. I appreciate your comments.

Thanks you


FRANK ESCALANTE December 26, 2014 10:53 PM


In response to your need for applicant, I am interested to gain more experience and grow with your company. My Homeland Security degree and Intelligence Studies/Analysis is in progress at American Military University. I humbly acknowledge that I have never worked in any intelligence agencies but I am very much willing if given a chance to achieve my dreams. The problem is I live in California. I appreciate your comments. Thanks.


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