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Eovel November 6, 2013 3:21 PM

They’re most likely not mimicking anything. They’re just zeroing on whatever pattern causes a “go away” reaction on the predator, which is probably in turn evolved in the predator based on whatever set of inputs got it as a species to be better off going away from.

Lsuoma November 6, 2013 3:40 PM

The use of the word “mimicking” was not meant to imply intentionality of any other sort of teleology. It is simply a convenient way to refer to a particular result of evolution by natural selection, nothing more.

Scott November 6, 2013 3:59 PM

Too bad this doesn’t work on people; I would definitely tattoo giant spiders on my wings.

“Hi, would you like a free thetan…. AHHHH! SPIDERS!!!”

Bryan November 6, 2013 4:02 PM

@Eovel

They’re most likely not mimicking anything. They’re just zeroing on whatever pattern causes a “go away” reaction on the predator, which is probably in turn evolved in the predator based on whatever set of inputs got it as a species to be better off going away from.

I’d have to agree. Evolution has no knowledge to go on, just random changes that may or may not help survival for the conditions present. I think this issue trips up most people on evolution.

Wael November 6, 2013 4:37 PM

Each wing carries a precisely detailed image of an ant-like insect, complete with six legs, two antennae, a head, thorax and tapered abdomen.

Two responses: One religious (as subtle as a freight train): Amazing how a mindless, brainless “nature” paints a detailed image on an insect’s wing. Not only did it paint it, it kept honing on the right image, until it succeeded in repelling predictors. As if the insects that had the wrong image (and consequently gotten consumed) relayed to the continuum of insects: “Change the image, change the ima.. ouch, ouch, stop it!!!”. Or alternatively, there were zillions of insects with all possible images (what are the possibilities), and the one with the right image survived. Sadly, the ones with the wrong image were eaten alive…
I can play with the piraña, too. Eh, Dirk Praet? 😉

The other, Security related:
What if an ant eater comes along? “My, My!!! nice! I’ll eat two ants with one lick!”

Tim L November 6, 2013 4:53 PM

@Lsuoma

Natural selection is a sort of teleology.

Living things are naturally selected to seek values which sustain their life.

Individual organisms that act successfully to acheive that goal are then capable of reproducing.

Even plants, which are not capable of purposeful action, are goal-directed — phototropism is teleological.

See ‘The Biological Basis of Teleological Concepts’ by Harry Binswanger for more.

Dirk Praet November 6, 2013 7:48 PM

@ Wael

I can play with the piraña, too. Eh, Dirk Praet?

Someone really should come up with a beautiful parable about this phenomenon. Then again, they are still screwed when a gang of sparrows, wrens, flickers, grouse or starlings comes along.

Wm November 7, 2013 6:56 AM

@ Dirk Praet?

“…they are still screwed when a gang of sparrows, wrens, flickers, grouse or starlings comes along.”

You left out an anteater.

anonymous coward November 7, 2013 10:17 PM

Just like the NSA playing the “terrorist card”. They aren’t actually looking for terrorists or could not have possibly missed the underwear bomber (who was reported to US authorities by his father ahead of time) or the Boston bombers (one of which being on a terrorist watch list), but they can deceive large parts of the population just by playing that card.

tyr October 1, 2015 5:03 PM

My favourite flying anteater is the Preying Mantis.
Nothing is safe from them, they are an appetite
with the armament and skills to prune anything
edible down to reasonable population size. If
they ever get over the nasty habit of eating each
other there will be a shortage of insects in a
hurry.

I like the Samurai ghost crabs, since some looked
like warriors on their shells they were tossed
back in to breed instead of being eaten. The next
generation bred more of the same as humans made
the selection. It is hard for most people to try
and think about process beyond simple cause and
effect. That’s why Darwin is still being argued.
Most of the arguments are against a flawed set of
assumptions about what the process actually is.

You can see the same thing in descriptions of security.
If you can’t keep the basics securely (keys,source,
method) the rest becomes futile. Then you have to
secure the equipment you use to implement or its a
waste. Connect to a communications channel and enter
the realm of horror unless you can secure the endpoints.
Now all you have to do is fight off the forces that
try to imitate to get at what you have secured. The
whole thing is a funhouse ride. I just received a
mail order catalog with a handy item, for 7.95 USD
you can get a handy book to write down internet
adresses and your passwords. It even says so in bold
type on the cover. Of course you’ll want to keep it
next to your computer so it will be easy to find.

It is enough to make you cry.

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