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Schneier on SecurityA blog covering security and security technology. « Targeted Trojan Horses Are the Future of Malware | Main | Interview with a Pickpocket Expert » October 17, 2006FixAVote.comPresumably this is a hoax. EDITED TO ADD (10/28): It's a hoax. Posted on October 17, 2006 at 2:17 PM • 49 Comments • View Blog Reactions To receive these entries once a month by e-mail, sign up for the Crypto-Gram Newsletter. http://www.riggedelection.com also resolves to that site. Posted by: Robo at October 17, 2006 2:57 PM Perhaps a hoax, but given your recent comment that election fraud is seen as a partisan issue in the US Congress (wish that was a hoax), who knows? Posted by: Dan at October 17, 2006 3:03 PM Funny. Posted by: Voter at October 17, 2006 3:15 PM From Toronto -- "We're sorry, the number dialed is not in service." Posted by: Chris S at October 17, 2006 3:19 PM From US: Me (sheepishly) "Wrong number, sorry". Posted by: Kevin at October 17, 2006 3:24 PM Maybe, maybe not: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=3491&print=1 "'Soaries was appointed by George W. Bush as the first chair of the commission created by the federal Help America Vote Act (HAVA) in the wake of the 2000 Presidential Election Debacle. In the interview, available here for the first time, Soaries excoriates both Congress and the White House, referring to their dedication to reforming American election issues as 'a charade' and 'a travesty,' and says the system now in place is 'ripe for stealing elections and for fraud.'" Ripe? Maybe fixavote is what an electronic voting system fermentation and distillation company looks like. Or maybe it is just a clever form of protest/awareness. Posted by: Davi Ottenheimer at October 17, 2006 3:25 PM I called the 800 # and spoke with some guy. He said I need to be working with a campaign before he would discuss his services. Sounds sketchy to me! Posted by: Paul J. at October 17, 2006 3:27 PM I rang the number up (i'm in Texas) -- and it was answered by a nice gentleman who seemd familiar w/ the race for Gov'r here (they aren't working this election). I was a bit stunned that the number work, so stumbled over my teeth and didn't question him on specific claims made on the web site. But he repeated he was not connected w/ Diebold in any way, and preferred I call them Election Consultants and not Fix-a-Vote. Posted by: Miles B. at October 17, 2006 3:27 PM Under the "Services" side tab: "Diebold Election Systems [...] are in no way affiliated with Election Consultants." Haha... that was funny, in an ironic they-didn't-mean-it-that-way-but-it-was-funny-anyway sort of way. Posted by: B-Con at October 17, 2006 3:30 PM WHOIS reveals it's been registered to domainsbyproxy.com Unsurprising, someone who's gone to that much effort is hardly going to screw up the registration.
Posted by: Giles Robertson at October 17, 2006 3:41 PM It's amazing that the same liberals who claim George Bush is "dumb" are the same ones who think he spearheaded some amazing conspiracy to rig the election. Posted by: theprez98 at October 17, 2006 3:43 PM That 1-800 number used to be registered to "Tahoe Candle Works". Here's the cached Google page: Posted by: Joseph at October 17, 2006 3:51 PM Check The BradBlog -- They ran this up a week ago. Posted by: Miles B. at October 17, 2006 3:59 PM Cutesy javascript that follows the mouse? Gotta be legit. No one could fake that level of professionalism. ;) Posted by: Foxyshadis at October 17, 2006 4:07 PM On the phone now w/ HostGator, the folks hosting FixaVote. The tech has no prior knowledge of this site, and suggests I let their abuse department know about it. If it didn't sound so convincing, it would be funny. Right now it's disturbing. Posted by: Miles B. at October 17, 2006 4:26 PM My vote is "hoax", probably some performance-art virtual troupe trying to flash-mob the blogosphere. The subtle allusions to electronic vote fixing ("Supported technology: Sequoia/Diebold/ESS") look like obvious humorless conspiracy-theorist bait to me. Posted by: Carlo Graziani at October 17, 2006 4:39 PM I'm very disappointed that they don't support the NedAp technology. You know, the Dutch machines that were made into chess computers a while back. Posted by: buntklicker.de at October 17, 2006 4:51 PM "I called the 800 # and spoke with some guy. He said I need to be working with a campaign before he would discuss his services. Sounds sketchy to me!" A Libertarian candidate would probably love to call up. Not sure if they'll talk to one, though. Posted by: Anonymous at October 17, 2006 4:58 PM The technology page is the best, with SmartVote persistent selection aids and VoteCorrect enhanced retrospective tallying. Cute corporate jargon. Posted by: jojo at October 17, 2006 5:53 PM Well, they're gone. "This Account Has Been Suspended". Posted by: Anatoly at October 17, 2006 6:37 PM Whatever the intent, the presentation and wording clearly violated the law. At least, that was a legal opinion given to me an hour ago. Hanging on the web, with no supporting context, this "joke" wasn't very funny. If this had instead been presented as a "word from our sponsor" by John Stewart on "The Daily Show", would it then have been amusing? Probably. Or was this site owned by the GOP? Posted by: Miles B. at October 17, 2006 7:07 PM "Hanging on the web, with no supporting context, this "joke" wasn't very funny." Not very funny, true. In point of fact, completely hilarious. And who's to say it's a joke? Hacking these systems is easy, and us blackhats have to eat! Posted by: root at October 17, 2006 7:26 PM It's back online. The hosting service apparently had some contact with the owners and they are satisfied that it's a joke. Or it REALLY IS owned by the GOP!! Posted by: Miles B. at October 17, 2006 8:08 PM How dare they try to shut down my site! Heads will roll! Posted by: K. Rove at October 17, 2006 8:37 PM Clearly a joke, and a brilliant one at that. In the grand tradition of "A Modest Proposal." Five stars! Two thumbs up! theprez98: It is Bush's intelligence people question -- not Rove's. Rove is a genius. An evil, evil, mad genius. Posted by: Paul at October 17, 2006 11:05 PM It would not be owned by the Democrats because they steal elections the old-fashioned way. See the Washington gubernatorial election of 2004! Posted by: Anonymous at October 17, 2006 11:25 PM For those who can't see flash (it crashes firefox here), could someone summarize what that site is all about? (Is there a way to convert it to some other format that the rest of us can see?) Posted by: No Flash at October 18, 2006 1:02 AM To "No Flash": I'm running Firefox -- no worries. Suspect you should update your flash. Click Tools --> Extensions --> More Extensions (lower right corner). Once there, click the "PlugIns" tab. However, the site is shown on BradsBlog -- see links in comment #13. Posted by: Miles B. at October 18, 2006 1:20 AM Oh, come on: "VoteCorrect TM: Real time voter correction" It's obviously a joke ! Posted by: Dimitris Andrakakis at October 18, 2006 1:39 AM The scary thing isn't whether this is real or not... The scary thing is that it could even be credible. In the wake of the Help America Vote (Right) Act, the "PATRIOT" Act, and the Military Commissions Act, what once was the Constitution of an entity formerly known as the "United States of America" clearly no longer exists except as a convenient fiction for certain politicians wobbly on the use of absolute force and power that they have arrogated to what is turning out ot be an insatiable beast. Apologies - the entity is still known as the "United States of America"; my earlier confusion stemmed from the fact that it no longer bears any resemblance whatever to that Republic. May God save the U S of A - because it's damned obvious nobody else will... Posted by: Jeff Dickey at October 18, 2006 2:19 AM Sorry again....by "credible" I didn't mean "really believable as possibly being factual", but "something that doesn't have you rolling on the floor laughing your eyes out after two seconds of looking at it". The rest of the earlier comment stands as written, unfortunately. Posted by: J at October 18, 2006 2:22 AM I think "satire" rather than "hoax". (I didn't fill out the contact form, but did click the button - a popup just says "Your message has been sent".) Posted by: Alan Braggins at October 18, 2006 5:03 AM @ G.V. > Worked for me. Not sure what the big deal is. You can't fool us, you're initials are really G.B., right? [[ sorry, just couldn't resist ]] Posted by: Provokatif at October 18, 2006 8:28 AM "It's amazing that the same liberals who claim George Bush is 'dumb' are the same ones who think he spearheaded some amazing conspiracy to rig the election." George W. Bush is dumb, but he didn't spearhead a conspiracy to rig his election. I believe his dad did. Posted by: denis bider at October 18, 2006 9:35 AM @Voter Via a google search, that 1-800 number was in May listed on valuebee.com, but that site is Not working now. Here's the google cache: Posted by: Josh O at October 18, 2006 10:42 AM The scary thing is that it could even be credible. In the wake of the Help America Vote (Right) Act, the "PATRIOT" Act, and the Military Commissions Act, what once was the Constitution of an entity formerly known as the "United States of America" clearly no longer exists except as a convenient fiction for certain politicians wobbly on the use of absolute force and power that they have arrogated to what is turning out ot be an insatiable beast. Posted by: Calo Bob at October 18, 2006 11:19 AM I don't see how the site itself could be illegal. Political speech is protected - that's why candidates promise the moon and sling lots of smelly, false accusations at each other - no fear of libel, slander, or other legal repercussions. What might be interesting is if the site were to declare that one or more candidates, having won elections, used their services to assure victory. Even better would be "testimonials" from those campaigns. Posted by: derf at October 18, 2006 12:00 PM @miles b: Posted by: another_bruce at October 18, 2006 12:23 PM In the Washington election referred to by anonymous in 2004, there were some electronic voting machine precincts that had unexpectedly high Republican vs Democrat ratios as compared to the polls. For some reason the state Republican leadership was very unenthusiastic about holding another election with better auditing. Some of the lower level Republican groups were indignant. Posted by: wkwillis at October 18, 2006 1:59 PM RE: "here in america, satire is protected by the first amendment " You are assuming that it is indeed satire. And you are basing that assumption on...? Isn't just as easy to assume it's a GOP plot? The hosting service did not think it was funny when they took it down. They felt it was illegal. Apparently they were convinced later that the site was only being "funny". Posted by: Miles B. at October 18, 2006 2:17 PM If they took it down, it's back up because if worked just fine for me. This one of the best satires I've seen in a long time; it took talent. And if it isn't satire it just confirms what I and some friends have concluded about the current state of the Union, er Fourth Reich, er ... Posted by: WD Milner at October 18, 2006 4:02 PM @Foxyshadis "Cutesy javascript that follows the mouse?" Amen. Although I believe it's flash... Posted by: Modulo at October 20, 2006 12:24 AM Could it be an FBI "sting" operation with the intent of catching a few politicians who really are in La-La land? Posted by: tescht at October 28, 2006 1:14 PM Satire, not hoax, sez I. "Automated voting assistance". This is the best thing since the customer reviews of "Tuscan Whole Milk" on amazon.com Posted by: Mark Mywords at November 2, 2006 1:28 AM Post a comment
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