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December 16, 2005

Computer Crime Hype

I guess this is the season for sensationalist hype of computer crime: first CNN, and then USA Today (drug users and Internet crime, for a double-scary story).

Beware the Four Horsemen of the Information Apocalypse: terrorists, drug dealers, kidnappers, and child pornographers. Seems like you can scare any public into allowing the government to do anything with those four.

Posted on December 16, 2005 at 03:15 PM19 CommentsView Blog Reactions

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Well, one thing I've learned from CNN is that Bruce has mispelled his blog.

It should be:

Schn3i3r 0n S3curity

Posted by: Rich at December 16, 2005 05:46 PM


In Europe, the Four Horsemen are terrorists, organized crime, pedophiles and neo-nazis. Works very well, too. In fact, works good enough to scare the European Parliament into accepting a bill that mandates a gigantic surveillance infrastructure. I suppose the public is either scared as well or, as usually, not interested in anything except the latest celebrity "news". Maybe it's just me, but I didn't see more than a sidenote in any national news outlet (if it's mentioned at all), and much less any kind of public outrage. Pretty disturbing.

Posted by: MikeN at December 16, 2005 06:27 PM


Not drug dealers; music and movie pirates.

Speaking of which, Congresscritters are moving once again to hand the keys to our culture and public IP rights to a few media supercorporations:

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004261.php

Posted by: Jonathan at December 16, 2005 09:26 PM


I thought the biggest scare was kids (=terrorists and organized crime) downloading music and movies.

Posted by: Ari Heikkinen at December 16, 2005 09:34 PM


Ugh.

The assault against privacy is never ending.

Posted by: Trevor at December 17, 2005 01:27 AM


Hmm, Bruce's "Internet Horsemen" have better irony, in that each of the four represents a crime that requires physical contact with a victim and/or a customer.

Posted by: David Harmon at December 17, 2005 07:39 AM


@David Harmon

Yeah, that's always been my gripe about new laws on surrendering encryption keys to the police. The way I summed it up was: "You can't encrypt a bloodstain."
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/12/27/32059/804

Posted by: OzJuggler at December 17, 2005 11:39 AM


"Bruce's 'Internet Horsemen' have better irony, in that each of the four represents a crime that requires physical contact with a victim and/or a customer."

The biggest threats have always been in places where the real world and the Internet intersect.

Posted by: Bruce Schneier at December 17, 2005 11:48 AM


"I thought the biggest scare was kids (=terrorists and organized crime) downloading music and movies."

Depends on who you are, doesn't it?

Posted by: Bruce Schneier at December 17, 2005 11:49 AM


i would regard a thief of my identity as an evil doppelganger sucking my life force, and only one of us would survive.

Posted by: another_bruce at December 17, 2005 02:56 PM


Sure, fear sells! What is the best way to turn off any critical thinking than scaring people? You just need a few seemingly plausible threats.

Companies seem to be catching on ... How about this thinggy called "OnStar"? If you listen to their commercials, it sounds like you are invariably going to DIE in your car unless you get "OnStar".

Which coincidently can spy on you, by listening to the conversations by the means of the installed microphone. But, surely, "The Big Brother" always has YOUR best interests in his mind!

Posted by: Kostya at December 17, 2005 04:07 PM


I especially enjoyed the CNN poll on what I think is the biggest online threat:

- Spam
- Hackers
- Viruses
- Porn

Oh, yeah! That porn's always trying to get my personal information and hack my PC...

Posted by: D at December 18, 2005 09:57 PM


@Kostya

OnStar has always scared me. I have always figured that whoever figures out how to hack OnStar will have a great time tracking people, stealing cars, etc.

I don't mind having a GPS receiver in my car, or a physical switch-on transceiver, but having something that automagically goes on worries me a lot, especially when it's tied into the locks on the car.

Posted by: cyphertube at December 19, 2005 09:52 AM


"This is the Internet."
(free access to lots of information)

"This is the Internet after smoking ice."
(spamm, phishing, pharming, pr0n, Nigeria-419)

Any questions?

Posted by: Ed T. at December 19, 2005 11:20 AM


onstar is a way creepy thing, i've seen the commercials, you get in some kind of trouble or lock yourself out of your car and this omniscient benevolent babysitter comes to your rescue.
if you need a babysitter while you're driving, you shouldn't be driving at all.
onstar is just the tip of the iceberg. there are also onboard diagnostic devices hooked up to the airbags in most new cars which record speed, braking, etc. and are available for later inspection by anybody who can get a court order.
the state of oregon formed a special commission to study a new tax on miles driven in oregon by oregonians. it would require a gps in every oregon-registered vehicle and the commission explained that this would inform the state when we'd left its borders so that we would no longer be taxed for those miles. yes, hacking this would be child's play. yes, i like to be all alone sometimes with nobody knowing where i am and i'm willing to execute drastic measures to achieve this, but worst of all.....
the tourists from california, they would be able to drive on the same roads i do and not be taxed! the oregon public services infrastructure is on life support in many areas, no sales tax, laughable property tax, only a vicious 9% income tax. my answer is to soak the tourists, not exempt them.

Posted by: another_bruce at December 19, 2005 11:50 AM


Why is this "sensationalist hype"?

Posted by: Rounin at December 20, 2005 07:43 AM


My friend wants to roll his mileage back on his lease, I knopw that this is wrong but many dealers still do this. He is worried about his On-Star GPS, does this keep track of this. He did get a insurance break because of it but if he is ever in a accedent he is worried that they may pull other driving info from his past like how fast he drives on a certian road ect. Does anyone have any answers to this. It seems like it is a voilation of your rights?

Posted by: Bryan at February 3, 2006 09:25 AM


wHO WILL STOP THE us GOVT. attemps at jailing all its citizens ?

Minutemen ? The corrupt CIA ?the US Army ?
Allah? Jesus?
Will we be liberated by moslems ?

Posted by: REBEL at February 7, 2008 02:32 PM


Well I for one, like our new privacy invading overlords! (Until I can get a decent connection then I am getting me some sweet Vidalia Onion Routers and I will be on my anonymous way! I'd do it now but dial-up + TOR = Even lower speeds...)

Posted by: Tyler at March 3, 2008 06:46 PM


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