Beyond Fear: Behind the Mic

Host Doug Kaye says, “This is the one interview I hope everyone will hear.”

In his latest book, Beyond Fear, security guru Bruce Schneier goes beyond cryptography and network security to challenge our post-9/11 national security practices. Here are some teasers:

  • “We’re seeing so much nonsense after 9/11, and so many people are saying things about security, about terrorism that just makes no sense.”
  • “Homeland security measures are an enormous waste of money.”
  • “If the goal of security is to protect against yesterday’s attacks, we’re really good at it.”
  • “The system didn’t fail in the way the designers expected.”
  • “Attackers exploit the rarity of failures.”
  • “More people are killed every year by pigs than by sharks, which shows you how good we are at evaluating risk.”
  • “Did you ever wonder why tweezers were confiscated at security checkpoints, but matches and cigarette lighters–actual combustible materials–were not?…If the tweezers lobby had more power, I’m sure they would have been allowed on board as well.”
  • “When the U.S. Government says that security against terrorism is worth curtailing individual civil liberties, it’s because the cost of that decision is not borne by those making it.”
  • “…people make bad security trade-offs when they’re scared.”

Read or listen to this terrific interview in which Bruce also says what he thinks of the 9/11 hearings and answers questions from listeners regarding spam and biometrics. This is one of our best.

Listen to the Audio on Archive.org

Categories: Audio, Recorded Interviews

Sidebar photo of Bruce Schneier by Joe MacInnis.