Neighborcat August 7, 2007 6:45 PM

As I recall, there was a paper vote record in Florida in 2000, but a full recount was stopped by the Supreme Court.

VVPB won’t give me warm fuzzies when the problems with our government go so much deeper than the election process. I think overall there is fair confidence in the accuracy of the 2004 presidential race results, and look where that’s gotten us.

Why steal an election when you can simply lie and obfuscate to win it

Perry E. Metzger August 7, 2007 10:45 PM

FYI, Ron Rivest presented a paper today at an election security workshop in Boston that indicates that the amount of auditing you have to do to catch significant cheating depends strongly on how close the election was and a few other factors — it turns out to be a non-trivial problem.

Anonymous August 8, 2007 5:55 AM


Travellers from US face EU crackdown

US business travellers and tourists flying to the European Union are facing the threat of the same laborious registration requirements that Washington has demanded of Europeans in the latest US security crackdown.

In its first reaction to the new US visa law, the European Commission said it was “considering??? a so-called electronic traveller authorisation scheme – similar to the American plan – that would require foreigners heading to the EU to give notice of their travel plans before departure.

The threat has been conveyed to senior US officials and lawmakers, with one letter sent last month stressing that a European system would “of course operate on a reciprocal basis???.

ABOUT FUCKING TIME! I hope they will fingerprint the yanks, too!

Paeniteo August 8, 2007 6:55 AM

“I hope they will fingerprint the yanks, too!”

Didn’t Brazil do this to US-travellers? Or even still?
IIRC it was quite annoying with real ink on paper…

MadBishop August 8, 2007 9:27 AM

Brazil did indeed do this to US travelers, but interestingly, only at Sao Paulo airport, not at Rio. Fortunately I’ve been flying direct to Rio for my vacations. 🙂

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